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elipsesjeff
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09-09-2006, 04:49 AM
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My blinds suck donkey balls but i think its the LHE in me wanting to play more than I should. Well, let me know what you think.
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dan
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wow brag harder :P
you are destroying the game and you are supposed to lose money in the blinds.
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gabe
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your w$sd% is low but thats prob variance
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Harry
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You have really good position awareness. I wanna learn.
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PSU Class of 2011 weeeeeeee!
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Miffed22001
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You have really good position awareness. I wanna learn.
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go learn 6max lhe
Nice stats jeff 
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aislephive
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Those are indeed good stats, you seem to be pretty solid aggressive. A few questions though, how long did it take you to get this many hands in and how many tables do you play?
As gabe pointed out, your W$SD% is a little low, this means you're going to showdown with the worst hand a little too often, but it's probably just variance if anything, but who knows. You seem to be running pretty well but playing well also, that's a good combination. Don't expect this to last nessicarilly though, and prepare yourself for a downswing (they love to come immediately after a heater I have found). Good job though, and good luck at 1/2 when you move up, it's very soft.
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elipsesjeff
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Originally Posted by aislephive
Those are indeed good stats, you seem to be pretty solid aggressive. A few questions though, how long did it take you to get this many hands in and how many tables do you play?
As gabe pointed out, your W$SD% is a little low, this means you're going to showdown with the worst hand a little too often, but it's probably just variance if anything, but who knows. You seem to be running pretty well but playing well also, that's a good combination. Don't expect this to last nessicarilly though, and prepare yourself for a downswing (they love to come immediately after a heater I have found). Good job though, and good luck at 1/2 when you move up, it's very soft.
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It took me about 35 hours of play and I'm up to 4 tabling now, although my average MT Ratio is 2.8 for this session. The last 2000 hands I spent using no table selection and no seat selection AND no webHUD to see how well I did and it worked out pretty good; I WONT be doing this when I move up. I have a habit of eating short-stacks, which, even if they double up off of me once, chances are they won't win twice.
I'm starting 1/2 on Sunday, and will probably play that the rest of the month before I go up any higher. I had SOME variance in this game, but no where near what I'm used to at that 10/20 6 max game. 150 BB swings there werent uncommon, which, for a relatively decent winrate, is substantially more variance than what I got at .5/1.
I'd say the most I was down in a night was like 4 buy-ins and I've had 6-7 buyin upswings a few different days. Not very many losing days once I got the hang of it, which is nice for once but, as you said it can change. There were days I would go like 8/9 with AA and be down a buyin with them, its those days that annoy the crap out of me. Also, running KK into AA 3 out of 7 times got old quickly too.
I'm sure this is all old news for the normal NL players but I'm used to winning a damn near guaranteed 2 bb/100 with my AA!! Well, with no glaring leeks I'm going to move up. I still make 1-2 donkish moves every now and then but compared to where I was I feel good.
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r8ed
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Post your detailed stats please. I'd like so see your postflop numbers.
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elipsesjeff
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IowaSkinsFan
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You actually seem to be doing very well in the blinds.
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Fnord
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Want to trade notes on blind play vs UTG?
I've been losing money UTG + HJ until I started slowing down. Over my last 10k I made moeny in my SB (tight BB FTW), lost very little from my BB.
Auto-raising small suited trash against typical 6-max players OOP was a big chip burner. Mixing back in limps and folds helped that a lot.
Common Limit vs No Limit pitfalls:
o Defend your blind less. Althought it looks like I defend at the same rate as you, so you dodged that one.
o Showing down lukewarm hands too often.
Finally, it's ok to limp. Really. My PFR has been trending down to about 15% right now.
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
I have a habit of eating short-stacks, which, even if they double up off of me once, chances are they won't win twice.
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I wonder if this is another ex-limit player thing. The NL guys don't gamble as much with the shorties and I usually get comments from them reguarding my ranges against them.
Do these look like hands you'd play?
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...oker-42195.htm
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elipsesjeff
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Want to trade notes on blind play vs UTG?
I've been losing money UTG + HJ until I started slowing down. Over my last 10k I made moeny in my SB (tight BB FTW), lost very little from my BB.
Auto-raising small suited trash against typical 6-max players OOP was a big chip burner. Mixing back in limps and folds helped that a lot.
Finally, it's ok to limp. Really. My PFR has been trending down to about 15% right now.
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I looked over my UTG and HJ hands, and, I don't see anything in there that I wasn't doing at 6 max LHE. It is the same range as before, except I have added 9Ts with small success and J9s and 98s with no success. I really feel dirty open limping right now and haven't grown accustomed to it, that might take a while.
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Common Limit vs No Limit pitfalls:
o Defend your blind less. Althought it looks like I defend at the same rate as you, so you dodged that one.
o Showing down lukewarm hands too often.
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Yeah, defending the blind less is something I'm still trying to change. My FBB2steal number has been slowly increasing but I find that if button minraises or 3xs preflop, and then the SB calls, I've got odds to call IMO with a lot of hands. My blinds were a weak spot for me in LHE as well; I'm just glad they don't hurt you nearly as much here.
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
I have a habit of eating short-stacks, which, even if they double up off of me once, chances are they won't win twice.
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I wonder if this is another ex-limit player thing. The NL guys don't gamble as much with the shorties and I usually get comments from them reguarding my ranges against them.
Do these look like hands you'd play?
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...oker-42195.htm
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Actually, outside of the A8s open limp, pretty much exactly what I'm doing. I'm usually 'gambling' with 77+, AQo+ and maybe AJs, depends on how much it is to call as well. As long as I have the guy covered over 2-1 or 3-1, I'ts an easy call as they push with crap like KQo and ATo and lower pairs. I am probably just running well too.
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johnny_fish
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You raise a lot in EP.. I guess that's Axs/SC's too? Are they profitable oop?
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elipsesjeff
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Open raising range:
JTo+
9Ts+
22+
A9s? maybe
And possible a little lower suited connectors based on teh table.
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Miffed22001
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Want to trade notes on blind play vs UTG?
I've been losing money UTG + HJ until I started slowing down. Over my last 10k I made moeny in my SB (tight BB FTW), lost very little from my BB.
Auto-raising small suited trash against typical 6-max players OOP was a big chip burner. Mixing back in limps and folds helped that a lot.
Finally, it's ok to limp. Really. My PFR has been trending down to about 15% right now.
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
I have a habit of eating short-stacks, which, even if they double up off of me once, chances are they won't win twice.
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I wonder if this is another ex-limit player thing. The NL guys don't gamble as much with the shorties and I usually get comments from them reguarding my ranges against them. |
this is all so true.
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Originally Posted by Fnord
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
I have a habit of eating short-stacks, which, even if they double up off of me once, chances are they won't win twice.
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I wonder if this is another ex-limit player thing. The NL guys don't gamble as much with the shorties and I usually get comments from them reguarding my ranges against them. |
Since I've never played limit execpt by accident, I'd have to say it isn't, because I do the same thing, but then again I learned how to play against them here so maybe you limit guys have rubbed off on me 
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