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will641
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05-21-2008, 04:22 PM
Post subject: 1 card sd vs tag
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: getting my swell on
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this hand has two decisions in it.
villain is 17/13/8/200. no specific reads. i think his c/r range is heavily weighted towards pair+sd. first decision is jamming the turn. i cant see any of his nut hands not betting the turn (i.e. sets and straights), especially given his AF. the river i thought was a fairly easy check behind, because hes shown so much weakness that i think he folds to almost any bet, but im curious if anyone thinks it is a bet, and say why.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Button ($163.95)
SB ($206.15)
BB ($138.35)
UTG ($198)
MP ($54.10)
Hero ($260.05)
Preflop: Hero is CO with 8 , 8 .
1 fold, MP calls $2, Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, SB calls $7, 1 fold, MP folds.
Flop: ($20) 6 , 5 , 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $16, SB raises to $52, Hero calls $36.
Turn: ($124) Q (2 players)
SB checks, (1) hero checks
River: ($124) K (2 players)
SB checks, (2)
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thizzSantaCruz
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Full House
Join Date: Oct 2006
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i would probably bet the turn, the only hand that i think might call you is 99. On the river I like a check behind.
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Flopping quads and boats like its my job
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meeloche
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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I play it the same as you with a check behind on the river.
A turn bet is bad cause we have showdown value and a decent draw that cannot continue if raised. The only part of his c/r range we beat without improving are his air/draw range which will not continue if we bet the turn.
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silu73
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Full House
Join Date: May 2006
Location: New Zealand
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I would never bet the turn here and against some opponents I am tempted to put in a small value bet on the river but against this one I might just check behind as our hands has showdown value.
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minSim
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2007
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So we're letting any random overcard hand that decided to (semi) bluff the flop have a free card to draw out on us?
I expect to be ahead on the turn a fair amount, by checking behind aren't we making the mistake?
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IowaSkinsFan
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Shove the flop, you have 10 outs versus pretty much everything. You pretty much could care less if he calls with 99-AA, 77-55. Hopefully, this move may extend his calling range in other spots.
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tarath
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3-of-a-Kind
Join Date: May 2008
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I think shoving the flop is mandatory.
How do you expect to get your sets paid off if you play overpair + OESD like this?
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