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Old 11-07-2009, 11:43 PM     Post subject: 1/2 Flopped Nuts Value Extraction #1 (permalink)  
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I called the flop to try and get the fish to tag along. I also think that raising the turn here over reps my hands against what looks very much like a flush. On the river I was just wondering if there is any value in shoving. No relevant history. Clearly he is never folding better to a shove. So do you think there enough combos of hands that he calls to outweigh the times hes 22288 here? Although I guess there is merit to raising the flop here to just get it in vs sb. Although I still think I can get it in on a majority of turns even when the fish folds.

BTN: $268.80
SB: $476.00 (unknown)
Hero (BB): $244.25
UTG: $543.95
CO: $307.85 (fish)

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BB with Ad 3d
1 fold, CO calls $2, 1 fold, SB calls $1, Hero raises to $8, CO calls $6, SB calls $6

Flop: ($24.00) 8d Qd 2d (3 players)
SB bets $18, Hero calls $18, CO folds

Turn: ($60.00) 8s (2 players)
SB bets $42, Hero calls $42

River: ($144.00) 3h (2 players)
SB bets $100, Hero ?
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Old 11-08-2009, 12:04 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Check preflop. I highly doubt you can raise this hand in this spot and play it profitably--I know I can't.

Flop is clear call. I'd for sure shove the river, worse flushes are very likely to pay you off. I probably wouldn't shove if we were 150bb deep unless I thought villain was quite call happy.
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Old 11-08-2009, 05:03 AM #4 (permalink)  
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It makes life easier if you convert your HHs.

I was going to say post reads, but after reading it for a third time I realize you sort of put some reads in brackets.

As for the hand I agree with the others.
Villain could have a ton of flushes here and isn't folding any of them on the river.
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shove and yeah i think i'd just check preflop you're gonna be oop vs all vs small blind.
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Old 11-08-2009, 04:06 PM #6 (permalink)  
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River's the snappest shove ever considering qq is heavily discounted as is 88 as quads are rather hard to make.
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