Originally Posted by zook

I usually re-raise 4x pre-flop with a limper and a raiser, esp when the donk that's likely to call is deepstacked.

Originally Posted by zook

I always c-bet the flop for ~$20.

Originally Posted by Bode-ist

with both villains calling me PF, and the better villain (whom i actually give credit for having a big hand) having only $38ish left, would it just be better to overbet push since a $20 flop bet is committing me to put him in/call his AI on the turn? Or does the donk villain still being in the hand make me play it more normally?

Originally Posted by zook

I don't like overbet pushing with here with a very little chance you get called by a worse hand (maaybe TT or a flush draw), only one better hand you might fold (QQ) and a small chance that another deepstacked opponent is slowplaying you. You're right that stack sizes make this awkward but I think you have to take a shot at a 50bb pot when you're the rr'er, your hand looks good and two players checked to you. If UTG folds and MP pushes making it $19 to call, I actually think you can find a fold. Pot odds would be ~4.5:1, but you'd be a huge dog to his range:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

22,770 games 0.005 secs 4,554,000 games/sec

Board: 9h 5d 3d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 14.040% 14.04% 00.00% 3197 0.00 { JcJd }
Hand 1: 85.960% 85.96% 00.00% 19573 0.00 { QQ+, 99, AdKd, AdQd }