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bigspenda73

08-12-2007, 04:37 AM Post subject: $50NL 6max- 3 hands

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Hand 1
Villain is 17/9/1 over 50 hands
Effective stacks $37

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Spenda is BB with A

UTG folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, Spenda raises to $3, CO calls, SB folds.

Flop: 7

($6.5, 2 players)
Spenda bets $4, CO calls.

Turn: 3

($14.5, 2 players)
Spenda bets $9, CO raises to $18, Spenda calls.

River: 9

($50.5, 2 players)
Spenda checks, CO is all-in $11.8, Spenda folds.
Uncalled bets: $11.8 returned to CO.

Results:
Final pot: $50.5

Hand 2
Same villain as hand 1
Effective stacks $50

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
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6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Spenda is BB with Q

UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, SB calls, Spenda raises to $3.5, UTG+1 calls, SB folds.

Flop: A

($7.5, 2 players)
Spenda bets $4.5, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: Q

($16.5, 2 players)
Spenda checks, UTG+1 checks.

River: 7

($16.5, 2 players)
Spenda checks, UTG+1 bets $11, Spenda raises all-in $43.12, UTG+1 calls.

Results:
Final pot: $102.74

Hand 3
Villain is a 50/10/.5
Villain starts hand with only $30

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5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Spenda is SB with 9

UTG folds, CO calls, Button calls, Spenda calls, BB raises to $2, CO calls, Button folds, Spenda calls.

Flop: 7

($6.5, 3 players)
Spenda checks, BB checks, CO bets $3, Spenda raises to $8, BB folds, CO calls.

Turn: K

($22.5, 2 players)
Spenda bets $20, CO folds.
Uncalled bets: $20 returned to Spenda.

Results:
Final pot: $22.5

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bode

08-12-2007, 05:10 AM

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hand 1: b/f turn. youre not beating anything there, even if it is a min-raise.

hand 2: umm..... super standard?

hand 3: fine post flop. I probobly dump this to the raise since your are ooh ooh pee

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08-12-2007, 05:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bode-ist

hand 2: umm..... super standard?

how is letting a flush draw get a free look at the river standard?

bode

08-12-2007, 06:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by |~|ypermegachi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bode-ist

hand 2: umm..... super standard?

how is letting a flush draw get a free look at the river standard?

because ldo we are going to hit our gin card on the river.

actually just missed it.

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EzDuzIt

08-12-2007, 09:28 AM

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hand 1: if you are going to bet that turn i think you need to pot it.
hand 2: checking the turn is really bad. he obv he has a hand or a draw and is going to call another bet. if he had a weaker ace and you check raise you only get 1 bet out of him. if you bet turn and river out you get 2 bets out of him. and you also make him pay to draw instead of giving a free card.
hand 3: looks fine but probably make it more like 9 on the flop. and just bet the full pot on the turn.

Da GOAT

08-12-2007, 09:33 AM

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hand 1: shutdown on turn

Hand2: WTF bet turn for value, turn check sucks. river is v poor too, bet for value

Hand3: lead out on flop looking for bet/3bet flop action. problem with c/r's is when you whiff on turns

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crazycrazy

08-12-2007, 10:36 AM

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1. dunno man. shooting 2 barrels oop is not exactly way to profit. A high good for caling his turn minraise ?
2. not betting nuts twice ? (only i can do this and get away with it profitably

3. turn push was good and he laid down better hand for sure

bigspenda73

08-12-2007, 05:21 PM

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So no one notices I have the NFD on the turn in Hand 1 and am getting 4.5:1 to call? It's the reason I two-barrelled btw

I'm really torn on what to do in the 97 hand, I know BB is folding the flop after he checks, so I just c/r to 8 to make it a PSB behind on the turn agains the 50bb stack.

gabe

08-12-2007, 05:53 PM

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check turn
bet turn, sexy though
raise more on flop but its fine

Pelion

08-12-2007, 06:28 PM Post subject: Re: $50NL 6max- 3 hands

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Hand 1: Pretty bad spot for a 2 barrel. If hes calling with a flush draw he just made it. If hes calling with a J he isnt folding. If hes calling with a medium PP he might fold but you need him to fold a total of like 40% to show an immediate profit here. A flush or J probably raises so you cant count on him calling and giving you a cheap shot at an A (which you may be drawing dead to anyway).

After he minraises you dont have 9 outs. Sometimes he has a weaker flush and two of your outs are dead. Sometimes he has a J and one of your outs is dead. Sometimes you are drawing dead.

Assuming you are always called when you make your hand and push, and that you always check/fold a non-heart you are getting 6:1 from the pot.

If you have an average of 7 outs you definately cant call (need 7:1 implied odds). If you have an average of 8 outs (more likely) you need 5:1 and can just about call but I think in reality he will fold sometimes when you make a 4 flush, and you will call alot when you hit an A or K getting 6:1 (and lose). That probably makes it a fold.

Hand 2: Hard to put him on a range. The limp call preflop is probably a small PP but could be a SC. He could also have AQ I suppose. AK, AA are raising preflop. After he calls the flop he probably has a set or a SC or maaaaaybe AQ. When the Q comes on the turn you should bet it since his entire range is calling anyway, and if he is weaker than I think then he probably isnt calling another bet anyway with those stats. As played I think you have to bet the river since there is a small chance he has a weaker A that he might call a bet with and there are pretty much no hands he will bet with that wont raise you. If he has a flush he probably raises, if he has a set and for some reason decided to check behind then he just boated up and will raise you and if he has a pair he will check behind. If you think hes the kind of player that wont raise with a flush here then check /raise the river.

Hand 3: Meh preflop. Im not sure about the turn push since his stats make him look like a station and alot of hands just made 2 pair (which has you drawing pretty thin). I might check it and then decide to call or fold depending on how big he bets.

=> My hand 3 advice is terrible. Just looked at it again and even if the flush cards are our only outs (so we have 20% equity when called) we need him to fold like 30% of the time to make the push profitable so it might even be a good push without the gutshot. With the gutshot its pretty easy. I agree that bet/3bet is the best flop line though.

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Vrax

08-13-2007, 02:02 AM

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In hand #1 I'd either check/fold to any reasonable bet (against more passive player) or consdier pulling "fake stack-a-donk" semibluff (against more laggy player).

In hand #2 it's easiest turn bet ever. IME flat calls on Axx 2-tone boards are either made hand willing to play big pot or draw. Not many people "float" on that kind of board.

Hand #3:

Personally I would fold that speculative hand to PFR cause I hate to play OOP drawing hands.

Flop: Ni han

Turn: vnb

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