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silu73
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12-09-2007, 06:01 PM
Post subject: $200nl - facing openshove river with TP?
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Full House
Join Date: May 2006
Location: New Zealand
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Villain is pretty much unknown. I have been playing aggressive on this table but have won all hands with only 1 hand going to showdown (which I won). I try to improve my hand reading skills but I am lost on the river. What would you do?
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Blinds: $1/$2
4 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: $246.40
Button: $123.00
SB: $198.00
BB: $277.30
Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is UTG with Q  A
Hero raises to $7, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.
Flop: 8  9 A  ($21, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $17, SB calls, BB folds.
Turn: 9 ($55, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $40, SB calls.
River: J ($135, 2 players)
SB is all-in $134, Hero ?
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EzDuzIt
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Full House
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Green Bay
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i think a fold is best even though i dont like doing it.
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jackvance
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4-of-a-Kind
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Pretty sure you're beat here.
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Sarcasm is your body's natural defense against stupidity
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Genitruc
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Straight Flush
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I just wrote a very very long post about ranges for the villain here and different levels of thinking from his/her perspective.
Then I deleted because it's such a waste of time guessing how unknowns play postflop.
FWIW I think I time down and call in this spot after the action went the way it did.
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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IowaSkinsFan
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Straight Flush
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lol fold, not even close
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silu73
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Full House
Join Date: May 2006
Location: New Zealand
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Good to know. I did fold and got shown JTo. I have been playing bad lately and I seem to be folding way too much. At least most people think that I did the right thing.
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mixchange
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4-of-a-Kind
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Location: San Francisco, CA
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I don't think its a bad fold, just a better play by villain in bluffing the river.
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Genitruc
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Dec 2005
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wow it sucks for my fragile online ego that I deleted the super long post where I put villain on JT and snap call
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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EzDuzIt
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Full House
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Location: Green Bay
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Genitruc
wow it sucks for my fragile online ego that I deleted the super long post where I put villain on JT and snap call
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suuuure ya did. lol jk, once u wrote it u might as well post it though.
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Renton
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Atlanta, GA, USA
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yeah fold
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gabe
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Moderator
Join Date: Dec 2004
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sick bluff, not sure i fold though given its so hard for him to have a flush
88 is only hand that makes sense
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IowaSkinsFan
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Straight Flush
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by gabe
sick bluff, not sure i fold though given its so hard for him to have a flush
88 is only hand that makes sense
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Yeah i mean i don't think he has the flush all that much but probably had a boat a lot. I mean what hand could you put him on that is bluffing here?
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Renton
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Atlanta, GA, USA
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at this level 9x AJ and boats make a ton of sense
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Renton
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Straight Flush
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Location: Atlanta, GA, USA
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and obv the flush
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