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11-23-2011, 03:42 AM
Post subject: $100nl - Rate my spew
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Full House
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Villain is a bad reg running 24/17 with a 7% 3bet (16% from btn) over a decent sample. His cbet is 68%.
He should view me as a Tagg reg. My image is clean.
$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($89.21)
Hero (CO) ($101)
BTN ($162.09)
SB ($99)
BB ($111.09)
Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 5 players) Hero is CO  
1 fold, Hero raises to $3, BTN raises to $8.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $5.50
Flop:    ($18.50, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks
Turn:  ($18.50, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $10, Hero raises to $32, BTN calls $22
River:  ($82.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $60.50
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aka_red
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this doesn't seem that bad as long as you know he's folding weaker than Kx by the river and he will always c-bet good Kx+. Unfortunately your line makes very little sense and people are generally curious. I wouldn't be surprised to see you get looked up by 8x here.
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rpm
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meh i think any reg is going to be looking you up pretty damn often here. you're very very rarely going to be able to show a flush or a king here assuming you just 4bet/call off AK pre, which seems to be the standard play at SS 6m. i think it's pretty marginal. i also don't expect anyone to fold a king to you here in a 3b pot, especially given your line
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bikes
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a hot damn mess
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think this is fine against most bad regs
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pocketfours
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I hate it.
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Toadstool
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What do you think his checking back range is on that board? I'd assume it's stronger than his betting range considering he 3b's 16%, also, what's your value range here?
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griffey24
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Straight Flush
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Don't like it. Not sure what you're trying to rep here. I'd rather just lead turn and bet river hard (pot or even bigger) if i felt like bluffing.
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baudib
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decent spew. give it 3.5 stars.
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Playing big pots at small stakes.
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aka_red
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Quote:
Originally Posted by griffey24
Don't like it. Not sure what you're trying to rep here. I'd rather just lead turn and bet river hard (pot or even bigger) if i felt like bluffing.
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Only problem I see with that is it is going to polarize your range because you'll presumably never do that with JJ so you're repping Flush, KQ KJs and 88 which is pretty narrow value range. Especially considering that not all regs call KQo or 88 in this spot or many combos of hands that make flushes (AQdd obv QJs not as often). That paired with the fact that my hand is pretty face up from checking flop and I 3bet you aggressively and it makes it significantly more likely that I call especially on this brick where you can easily have random strong aces most of which I beat.
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Alexos
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hate it!!! bad regs : 1) slowplay flop here - albeit few combos 2) never fold K6s/QQ on river but always check flop with it.
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why not just bet the flop and continue barreling till you're all in
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Fnord
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How about lead $16 on the turn and shove the river?
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Outlaw
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fnord
How about lead $16 on the turn and shove the river?
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This
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pocketfours
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c/f turn and c/f river.
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gjoselepen
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Quote:
Originally Posted by griffey24
Don't like it. Not sure what you're trying to rep here. I'd rather just lead turn and bet river hard (pot or even bigger) if i felt like bluffing.
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yeah she's right....
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Numbr2intheWorld
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Seems good to me... why do people not like it? His range is weak and you can rep a flush, set, or AK+
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gjoselepen
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Numbr2intheWorld
Seems good to me... why do people not like it? His range is weak and you can rep a flush, set, or AK+
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yep, and that's right....
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ilikeaces86
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Numbr2intheWorld
Seems good to me... why do people not like it? His range is weak and you can rep a flush, set, or AK+
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B/C in my experience in these spots most people know their range is weak and thus snap it off knowing that we bluff into that weak range a lot.
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sauce123
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ilikeaces86
B/C in my experience in these spots most people know their range is weak and thus snap it off knowing that we bluff into that weak range a lot.
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This. But that doesn't mean we should only CR turn for value, it just means we should be CR turn with a range such that bluffcatching is unprofitable on both streets. if OP's CR range is AJ, AT, QJs, JTs, QTs, T9s, 22, and then AK+, then the play is losing substantially to a frequent bluffcatch strategy from IP. My hunch though is that OP doesn't just bluff CR this turn all the time since he said he thinks his play might be spewy. So, in all likelihood, OP wasn't bluffing turn enough- and the fact that he decided to bluff CR and happened to get called is just going to reenforce his over-tightness. So I say "nh" OP. Keep bluffin'!
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