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griffey24
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12-12-2006, 12:19 AM
Post subject: $100NL, 10,000 hand checkup
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Straight Flush
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Hey guys,
Well after beating 25NL and 50NL I finally decided that I should buy PokerTracker. I am probably primarily motivated by the fact that I beat 25/50NL rather easily, but I can't seem to beat 100NL steadily.
I am playing on Interpoker and find the 100NL to be much more solid than the lower limits. In any case, I'd appreciate any feedback on my stats, as this is the first stat-check I've done.
I'm not sure if 10,000 sample is big enough, but I'd appreciate any help.
Hopefully I get myself out of the red soon!
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IowaSkinsFan
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Your VPIP is too high, but your PFR is fine, which means you have to stop limping/cold calling raises OOP so much. C-betting is fine. Your aggression factor is way too high also.
It's hard to tell from just stats, especially after only 10k hands, but my guess is you're bluffing too much, you're too loose preflop, and not laying down hands enough.
Look at this guide, it's great for basics.
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...oker-41642.htm
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euphoricism
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4-of-a-Kind
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Your SB sucks, sucks, sucks.
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griffey24
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Straight Flush
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Originally Posted by euphoricism
Your SB sucks, sucks, sucks.
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I take this to mean "stop calling/completing so much out of the small blind" ?
Yah my small blind definitely sucks pretty hard! What BB/hand should one expect ouf of the SB? What VPIP should one expect out of the SB?
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bode
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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
Your aggression factor is way too high also.
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seriously? i was under the impression that an AF of 3ish is ideal
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eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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Harry
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Full House
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SB way too loose is what jumps out at me. AF is fine.
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PSU Class of 2011 weeeeeeee!
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lolzzz_321
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NO YOU
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your bb/100 is not ideal
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andy-akb
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Originally Posted by Triptan3s
your bb/100 is not ideal
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lololo nh.
This isn't BBV.
Anyways, these are the main things I noticed:
-Your VPIP is too high in relation to your PFR. Start raising more in LP and limping less all around
-Dont open limp UTG or basically ever really, thats costing you a ton of money in EP
-Be more aggressive OTB, with blind steals especially
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Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
Your VPIP is too high, but your PFR is fine, which means you have to stop limping/cold calling raises OOP so much. C-betting is fine. Your aggression factor is way too high also.
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I agree his VPIP is too high, but think his PFR is actually too low and think his AF is about on par for where it should be
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griffey24
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12-12-2006, 02:35 PM
Post subject: gettin' out of the red..
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Hey guys,
Thanks for all the help so far, I really appreciate it!
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Originally Posted by Harry
SB way too loose is what jumps out at me. AF is fine.
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yah my VPIP of 40% out of the SB is huge, what VPIP do most of you guys have out of the SB?
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Originally Posted by andy-akb
-Your VPIP is too high in relation to your PFR. Start raising more in LP and limping less all around
-Dont open limp UTG or basically ever really, thats costing you a ton of money in EP
-Be more aggressive OTB, with blind steals especially
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So I hear this a lot, that you should never limp. Always open for a raise. I also hear people often saying that you shouldn't cold call a raise, and either re-raise or fold.
It seems to me if you played this way, your VPIP should = PFR. Is this actually sustainable over the long term? (edit: just as I say that, I see Renton's latest post and he essentially has VPIP = PFR at most positions)
Thanks for all the help so far, and I'd appreciate any other feedback!
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Renton
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Straight Flush
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yea you are losing more in the sb than you would have had you just folded every time.
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andy-akb
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12-12-2006, 03:21 PM
Post subject: Re: gettin' out of the red..
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4-of-a-Kind
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Originally Posted by griffey24
Hey guys,
Thanks for all the help so far, I really appreciate it!
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Originally Posted by Harry
SB way too loose is what jumps out at me. AF is fine.
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yah my VPIP of 40% out of the SB is huge, what VPIP do most of you guys have out of the SB?
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Originally Posted by andy-akb
-Your VPIP is too high in relation to your PFR. Start raising more in LP and limping less all around
-Dont open limp UTG or basically ever really, thats costing you a ton of money in EP
-Be more aggressive OTB, with blind steals especially
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So I hear this a lot, that you should never limp. Always open for a raise. I also hear people often saying that you shouldn't cold call a raise, and either re-raise or fold.
It seems to me if you played this way, your VPIP should = PFR. Is this actually sustainable over the long term? (edit: just as I say that, I see Renton's latest post and he essentially has VPIP = PFR at most positions) |
My VPIP/PFR is 21.70/18.57 over the last like 7k hands so they arent equal, but fairly close. I do limp behind sometimes with marginal hands at tables where cbets dont get respect, but even then I do that probably as much as I should. If people say that you shouldnt cold call a raise that it is either re-raise or fold, then, well, I would like to play against those people. I smooth-call a good amount of raises in LP with a fairly wide range of hands, in the blinds that advice is probably more accurate.
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ville18
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Straight
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LOL TRIPTANES IASFAGLOL
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griffey24
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Straight Flush
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Originally Posted by Triptan3s
your bb/100 is not ideal
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lol..
I know, I'm aiming for (3.00) .. I'm almost there!
anything I should change Triptan3s to be "more ideal"? 
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Harry
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Full House
Join Date: May 2006
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My SB vpip ranges from 18-23%. Also, you can limped occasionally, just NEVER open with a limp.
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PSU Class of 2011 weeeeeeee!
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griffey24
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Straight Flush
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Thanks for the help so far guys!
I tried this whole "no open limping" tonight, and it worked out well. Definitely helped me tighten up my opening range, as I would only open with a hand I was comfortable raising with.
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