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    Quote Originally Posted by courtiebee
    How do you scout other tables? Do you just get up, wander around, and watch for a while? When I know my table is bad and I need a table change, I never know how to figure out which table to go to. And I suppose you'd need to watch a table for at least a few hands to actually know it's a good one?

    I'm such a noob.
    i do know a few fish, whales and donks in my poker room cuz i play a hell of a lot of poker with these guys Usually, i'd love to sit at a table with lots of old passive guys :P (fish hunting No. 1 golden rule). Also, i watch out for some guys with a big stack at other tables.
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    Played satellite, busted in the first hour, went home. These things are getting good a turnout now - 10 seats awarded today.

    I've decided that I'm not allowed to play anymore live 1/2 until I finish reading TOP :P

    Totals: +$122 cash (~84 hours), +$489 donkaments.
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    I haven't been playing any live poker at all, but when I did play a couple times at the end of last year, I didn't post. I figure that I should do it now while I still remember what I donked off...

    October 22: -$157 cash, 1.5 hours

    October 25: -$120 satellite

    November 1: +$980 satellite (won seat)

    November 11: -$550 BCPC tournament
    also -$65 cash, 2.5 hours

    November 19: -$115 ... cash? I don't know to be honest... guess I should have done this last year, lol

    January 6: -$100 donkament

    So yeah back when I was playing satellites I only managed to play 6 total, but I one two seats I ended selling both $1100 seats for $1050 each and then playing the $550 event instead. BR nit FTW :P

    River Rock decided to take their once 25 table poker room and turn it into another place for high stake table games. The poker room is now across from the casino in an entirely separate room and it now has only 14 tables I'm really upset about this and have only been back to play once since they did it. I know poker doesn't really make the casino any money and that I shouldn't be surprised, but I'm really disappointed.

    In other news, the Olympics are coming and hopefully the downtown casino is hopping with the extra people in the city. I definitely plan on checking Edgewater's poker room out in February (although they were stupid and moved their room across the "street" and out of the casino too...sigh).


    Totals: -$150 cash (~88 hours), +$699 donkaments
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    Right now I'm on my iPhone in the cascades casino parking lot with the windows down in the sun, waiting for 4:00 to come so that I can go have dinner. Every year there's a ladies event to raise money for breast cancer and this is the first time I'm playing in it. Lower turnout than usual since they didn't announce it til after the olympics, but it's not bad. Today is the $270+$30 shootout event with bounties and tomorrow is the $450+$50 event. I'm sitting in my car waiting around because the second table of the shootout isn't until 5...two hr break between tables ftl.

    I played the first table like a satellite cuz 3/10 of us were going to advance to the next round. You should all be jealous you're not female because good lord these events are soft. This is only the third time I've played with women only but they're all the same. I chipped up to the table chip lead without a showdown with mostly all in steals because they were all so scared of busting, especially with 3 of us advancing. I mostly love it but on the other hand it's super annoying because women also talk sooooo much so the hands are sooooo slow...

    Anyway it's finally almost dinner time, yay. I gotta win this next table so gl me...if I make it hu, that should be interesting cuz I haven't played hu in forever!
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    I live down the road from Cascades, but haven't played there in a long time. How's the upgraded poker room? I think they upgraded it last year...
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    Just got home from playing the FO. There were 161 players and we were to play down to 20 people (min cash starts at 20 for $740). The final two tables play tomorrow afternoon. It took us >10 hours to get down to 20 and the last 30 min were excruciatingly slow. We were hand for hand with 22 people forever because women are nits and no one wanted to bust out of the money. The blinds were ridiculously high as well and I think I had the second chip lead at the table at one point with 11bb, lol. I was doing my best to abuse the bubble but I didn't get a lot to work with and I was pushing into the bigger stack for most of it. I tried to burst the bubble twice, both times really behind :P The first time I was getting 2.5 to 1 odds to call a shorty with 73o in the bb and she had AA (I'm actually not sure about my call...73o...money bubble...a decent precentage of my stack...I mean obviously I'm getting good odds versus her range but is it good considering it's on the bubble and it's gonna hurt me if I lose? I guess I gotta do the math to know...). The next time I shoved A3o on the CO and got called by a nit with 88.

    Women are hilarious. The nit that called my push with 88 open folded AK bvb because she was scared of the bb's bigger stack. When she called my push with 88, she was in the bb with 52k chips at blinds 8k/16k and she took about a full minute to make the call. I was actually shocked she called :P

    Right after I lost the hand with A3, the bubble burst and play stopped. I was pretty disappointed by that because the 52k chips that I lost was half my stack at that point and now I'm pretty screwed for tomorrow. There are a total of 3 women that blinded down to <2bb, though, so I'm not even the short stack... yeesh.

    Oh yeah and I bustoed the shootout event after playing the second table for 3.5 hours and losing a flip to go out in 6th.

    Quote Originally Posted by JL View Post
    I live down the road from Cascades, but haven't played there in a long time. How's the upgraded poker room? I think they upgraded it last year...
    What did they change during the upgrade? I've never played cash there but it's still just 8 tables...seemed a bit busy tonight but nothing crazy. Why don't you play there? You're not big on live poker?
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    Busto in 12th place after only 1.5 hours of play. The blinds were rolled back at the start of play, giving me an awesome 10bb stack to work with. I won A3s vs KQ against a super short stack and push/folded my way to 30bb at my high point. Then I went AA < 88, 77 > QJ (I one outered her after she hit a J on the flop), QQ < AJ, and TT < AJ to bust me. I cashed for $1630.

    FML
    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord View Post
    Why poker fucks with our heads: it's the master that beats you for bringing in the paper, then gives you a milkbone for peeing on the carpet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by courtiebee View Post
    What did they change during the upgrade? I've never played cash there but it's still just 8 tables...seemed a bit busy tonight but nothing crazy. Why don't you play there? You're not big on live poker?
    I really don't know what they changed..haven't gone to check it out.

    And yeah I am just not big on live poker at all, that's why I never go there.
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    There is talk of Bay 101 starting real NLHE games. *licks lips*
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    what do they have instead of "real" NLHE?
    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by courtiebee View Post
    what do they have instead of &quot;real&quot; NLHE?
    $200 bet cap.
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    nice job courtie
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    Aww thanks, I can't wait til next year!
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    Quote Originally Posted by courtiebee View Post
    You should all be jealous you're not female because good lord these events are soft. This is only the third time I've played with women only but they're all the same. I chipped up to the table chip lead without a showdown with mostly all in steals because they were all so scared of busting, especially with 3 of us advancing. I mostly love it but on the other hand it's super annoying because women also talk sooooo much so the hands are sooooo slow...
    We married men must have a real advantage then with the knack of appearing interested but totally switching off from the conversation when a group of women are chatting about anything. A skill only marriage can bring.
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    hahahah yes, that's an impressive skill indeed... it's too bad for you that there aren't more women at the tables!
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    Why poker fucks with our heads: it's the master that beats you for bringing in the paper, then gives you a milkbone for peeing on the carpet.

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    In Atlantic City playing a couple donkaments in the Borgata's summer tournament series. Played the first event today which got 508 people for $230 buy-in. It was unexciting for me and I eventually busted QQ < KK with 15bb.

    Tomorrow is the 2nd event for $350.

    Played 1/2 NLHE for a bunch of hours after I busted and I'm amazed at how much softer the games are than in Vancouver. It's a nice change. I've lost a couple buy-ins so far.

    Highlight of the trip is playing 1/2 PLO for the first time in a casino. The hardest thing was figuring out how to look at my hole cards. I tried arranging them in a way so that I could see them all beside each other at the same time which seemed to work best. So time consuming though. The game kinda sucked because it was full of PLO players rather than Holdem players trying to play PLO (big difference). I was a preflop nit most of the time and ended up breaking even there.

    GL me tomorrow
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    Borgata Summer Poker Open: Event #2 - Cards In The Air

    I had raised pf during that hand and gotten two calls. On the river when she raised me, I was thinking "wow, wouldn't it be sick if she flopped quads?" hah

    I ended up ~break even for cash by the end of the trip. Didn't cash any of the donkaments. I think the BBJ is like $330k by now, which is insane. I wanna go back so badly cuz the games must be so good right now..

    I think I'm gonna try to go back to the Borgata next April for their spring series. Or maybe I'll luckbox something and go back in September for the fall series. That poker room is awesome!
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    Why poker fucks with our heads: it's the master that beats you for bringing in the paper, then gives you a milkbone for peeing on the carpet.

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    Two hands at 1/2 NL:


    1) First hand at the table I get dealt JJ in the BB.

    Shorty in MP raises to $10 and guy in LP just calls. I raise up to $40. MP shoves for $89 total. LP shoves for ~$160 total.

    It doesn't seem like I should be calling unless I can put at least AQs into LP's range, which doesn't seem likely. So then this means I should have just called the original $10 raise?


    2) Line check (mostly wondering if it's better to bet flop OOP):

    After a few limps, someone in MP raises to $10. I call behind in the BB with AQs and 2 more ppl call behind me for 5-way flop.

    Flop is Qxx giving me TP with nut flush draw, so I check/call $25 cbet. Shorty calls (eff stack with bettor ~$230)

    Turn is a K. Shorty pushes $50, the other guys folds, and I call.
    Last edited by donkbee; 06-16-2010 at 04:03 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by courtiebee View Post
    Two hands at 1/2 NL:
    1) First hand at the table I get dealt JJ in the BB.

    Shorty in MP raises to $10 and guy in LP just calls. I raise up to $40. MP shoves for $89 total. LP shoves for ~$160 total.

    It doesn't seem like I should be calling unless I can put at least AQs into LP's range, which doesn't seem likely. So then this means I should have just called the original $10 raise?
    What did you know about LP and did he seriously consider folding, insta-shove or put on a one act drama? There is a lot of donk psychology here, but some context would help a lot.

    BTW: I hate life and probably call this because neither player is convincing me they have QQ+ more often than not and JJ has a bunch of equity here (JJ > AK all-in pre-flop.)

    Quote Originally Posted by courtiebee View Post

    2) Line check (mostly wondering if it's better to bet flop OOP):

    After a few limps, someone in MP raises to $10. I call behind in the BB with AQs and 2 more ppl call behind me for 5-way flop.

    Flop is Qxx giving me TP with nut flush draw, so I check/call $25 cbet. Shorty calls (eff stack with bettor ~$230)

    Turn is a K. Shorty pushes $50, the other guys folds, and I call.
    You pretty much crush this board so I don't mind your play. Pretty terrible turn card, but you're never folding here for $50 more.
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    68,000,364,432 games 84.746 secs 802,402,053 games/sec

    Board:
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    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 18.833% 18.11% 00.73% 12312472008 494301504.00 { 22+, A2s+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, A2o+, KJo+, QJo }
    Hand 1: 49.422% 48.79% 00.63% 33177332448 430111692.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }
    Hand 2: 31.744% 31.53% 00.21% 21441053880 145092900.00 { JJ }

    This is assigning a really tight range to LP. He's going to show you a worse hand than QQ/AK at least 10% of the time here, barring more information you can use to really nail him to the nuttiest of hands.

    Sick spot if $200 is a lot of money to you, but I'm pretty sure it's time to GAMB00L.
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    1. Without good reads I'm totally going with the JJ hand. By default I'd assume the shorty's range is pretty wide and I'd be surprised if a LP caller is ever flatting against a shorty with QQ+. He is going to have AK here a ton as well as some hands you have destroyed. In all the $1/$2 live games I play, a $10 raise is basically a minraise and given basically no respect unless the it's a total nit.

    2. OK so maybe the $10 raise means something in your game...anyway, I'd consider 3-betting here quite a bit because you probably have the best hand and have great equity vs. this action.

    I like check-raising this flop but flatting is OK too, agree that we're never folding for $50 even with the worst card in the deck hitting.
    Last edited by baudib; 06-17-2010 at 07:22 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    I like check-raising this flop but flatting is OK too, agree that we're never folding for $50 even with the worst card in the deck hitting.
    Check/raising here is pretty bad.

    If you check what sorts of hands:
    Bet/Fold
    Bet/Call
    Check through

    If you bet what sorts of hands:
    Fold
    Call
    Raise
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    Ok, let me start this by saying that Fnord you're an much better player than myself... but just wondering if you could clarify what you mean here..

    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord View Post
    Check/raising here is pretty bad.

    If you check what sorts of hands:
    Bet/Fold
    AK, JJ TT
    Bet/Call
    a bunch of weaker queens, a bunch of weaker flush draws, overpairs (might re raise)
    Check through
    weaker flush draws, missed hands AJ/AT KJ etc, underpairs like JJ/TT etc, 2nd pair hands, really weak queens

    If you bet what sorts of hands:
    Fold
    underpairs, mised hands,
    Call
    some underpairs with some players, weaker flush draws, weaker queens, AK for some players
    Raise
    overpairs, two pairs, sets, maybe KQ, weaker flush draws(with highly aggro players - most likely to just call though multiway)
    That's in my opinion... correct me if I'm wrong/add to or remove... but it seems the best way to get max money on the flop against the hands you want in (weaker queens and weaker flush draws) is to check raise - they're calling two raises instead of one. But gutted if it checks through...

    Tell me where I'm going wrong Fnord!
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    Weaker Queens will sometimes fold to your check/raise (in bigger games they will find this fold even more often)

    If you flat, one pair hands will jam a lot of turn cards to try to protect their hand.

    If you lead the flop, one pair hands will jam the flop to get it in goodish against draws or peel intending to get it in on a blank turn unless they see something that makes them think you beat one pair.
    Last edited by Fnord; 06-19-2010 at 07:51 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord View Post
    What did you know about LP and did he seriously consider folding, insta-shove or put on a one act drama? There is a lot of donk psychology here, but some context would help a lot.
    It was my first hand at the table, so unfortunately I didn't know anything about him. He didn't first pump instashove his chips, but he still seemed comfortable putting the chips in.

    I'm assuming that if I think he's hollywooding, he's probably stronger. Or if he looks genuinely uncomfortable, then he's weaker.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord View Post
    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 18.833% 18.11% 00.73% 12312472008 494301504.00 { 22+, A2s+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, A2o+, KJo+, QJo }
    Hand 1: 49.422% 48.79% 00.63% 33177332448 430111692.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }
    Hand 2: 31.744% 31.53% 00.21% 21441053880 145092900.00 { JJ }
    My problem when thinking about this hand is that I put the EP raiser on a much tighter shove range. I don't really agree with A2o+, but I think I agree with everything else. And in that case it looks like an okay call since I also agree that sometimes LP is shoving wider.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rupeni View Post
    That's in my opinion... correct me if I'm wrong/add to or remove... but it seems the best way to get max money on the flop against the hands you want in (weaker queens and weaker flush draws) is to check raise - they're calling two raises instead of one. But gutted if it checks through...
    Aside from what Fnord said, I also wanted to keep worse flush draws in.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord View Post
    If you lead the flop, one pair hands will jam the flop to get it in goodish against draws or peel intending to get it in on a blank turn unless they see something that makes them think you beat one pair.
    Do you like leading better then? I couldn't decide between leading and check/calling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by courtiebee View Post
    Do you like leading better then? I couldn't decide between leading and check/calling.
    They're both good lines. If you see someone who looks like they're going to bet, then it's a clear check. The only disaster here is the flop checking through.
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    If I decided to lead, what do you think a good bet size would have been? $30?

    Being able to decide the bet size makes leading pretty attractive. It would have been annoying if I checked and someone bet something silly like $10.
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    Quote Originally Posted by courtiebee View Post
    If I decided to lead, what do you think a good bet size would have been? $30?

    Being able to decide the bet size makes leading pretty attractive. It would have been annoying if I checked and someone bet something silly like $10.
    $30is sounds fine. If someone bet $10 I'd raise it up to like $40 or so and make it look like I'm attacking a weak bet and lay a goodish price to continue because I really don't expect to get much action unless they improve.
    Last edited by Fnord; 06-19-2010 at 11:33 PM.

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