no, I'm saying it b/c I'm assuming we have, at best, like 60% equity and we're drawing dead/slim here a lot
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no, I'm saying it b/c I'm assuming we have, at best, like 60% equity and we're drawing dead/slim here a lot
Dang. During the hand I forgot that it was a limp/call. I would def call and see a turn. Never folding flop here.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigspenda73
ooo dang is right and spenda is right. spenda is dang?
THIS IS SO FUCKING AWESOME!!!!
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
MP ($32.75)
CO ($6.45)
Hero (Button) ($23.65)
SB ($24.75)
BB ($37.80)
UTG ($33.15)
Preflop: Hero is Button with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif
1 fold, MP raises to $1, CO calls $1, Hero raises to $4, 2 folds, MP calls $3, CO calls $3
Flop: ($12.35) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (3 players)
MP checks, CO bets $2.45 (All-In), Hero raises to $8, MP calls $8
Turn: ($30.80) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (3 players, 1 all-in)
MP bets $20.75 (All-In), Hero calls $11.65 (All-In)
River: ($54.10) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (3 players, 3 all-in)
Total pot: $54.10 | Rake: $2.60
Results in white below:
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (straight, seven high).
MP had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (straight, seven high).
CO had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (straight, seven high).
Outcome: Hero won $22.60, MP won $22.65, CO won $6.25
lets tilt together
lol @ hand
Well, obv I suck at updating. I haven't played that much since then anyway.
I've gone to two live tourney's in the area (hosted by same group). There format pretty much blows, essentially doubling blinds. But for 1 1/2 hours there is some poker to be played. That being said, I busted early in both :-(
They also have 200NL cash (with 1/2 the table <50bb and the conscious half usually over 150bb) which should be hugely profitable. I ran like crap today, am down about $300 overall :-(
Then I came home and played 500 hands of 50NL and won 5 buy-ins :-)
BR is over $1.5k, woot.
FUCK YEAH!!
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
SB ($51.55)
BB ($32.25)
Hero (UTG) ($48)
MP ($72.15)
CO ($46.90)
Button ($22.85)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif
Hero raises to $2, 4 folds, BB calls $1.50
Flop: ($4.25) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($4.25) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5, BB calls $5
River: ($14.25) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $26, BB calls $25.25 (All-In)
Total pot: $64.75 | Rake: $3
Results:
BB mucked Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (flush, King high).
Hero had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (straight flush, ten high).
Outcome: Hero won $61.75
More gheyness
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Button ($51.70)
SB ($87.60)
BB ($63.20)
Hero (UTG) ($54.25)
MP ($55.55)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif
Hero raises to $2, MP raises to $3.50, 1 fold, SB calls $3.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $10, MP raises to $30, SB calls $26.50, Hero raises to $54.25 (All-In), MP calls $24.25, SB raises to $78.50, MP calls $1.30 (All-In)
Flop: ($165.85) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)
Turn: ($165.85) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)
River: ($165.85) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)
Total pot: $165.85 | Rake: $2
Results:
SB had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (straight, five high).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (straight, five high).
MP mucked 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (one pair, nines).
Outcome: SB won $83.25, Hero won $80.60
K, I feel better now
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
UTG ($37.90)
Hero (MP) ($87.45)
CO ($50)
Button ($51.25)
SB ($49.50)
BB ($52.45)
Preflop: Hero is MP with Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif
UTG calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.50, 3 folds, BB calls $2, UTG calls $2
Flop: ($7.75) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $5, BB calls $5, 1 fold
Turn: ($17.75) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $15, BB calls $15
River: ($47.75) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
BB bets $25.50, Hero raises to $51, BB calls $4.45 (All-In)
Total pot: $107.65 | Rake: $3
Results:
BB mucked Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (full house, fives over Kings).
Hero had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (full house, fives over Aces).
Outcome: Hero won $104.65
Today is fun (possibly my biggest pot ever)
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Button ($55.20)
SB ($48.45)
BB ($78.30)
UTG ($32.70)
Hero (MP) ($98.55)
CO ($71.95)
Preflop: Hero is MP with Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif
1 fold, Hero raises to $2, CO calls $2, Button calls $2, SB calls $1.75, 1 fold
Flop: ($8.50) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $6, CO calls $6, 2 folds
Turn: ($20.50) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $15, CO raises to $33, Hero raises to $90.55 (All-In), CO calls $30.95 (All-In)
River: ($148.40) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)
Total pot: $148.40 | Rake: $3
Results:
Hero had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (three of a kind, Jacks).
CO mucked 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif, 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (three of a kind, eights).
Outcome: Hero won $145.40
So did uz lernz pokah yet?
flop sets, get paidQuote:
Originally Posted by bigred
your sex is on fire
<3Quote:
Originally Posted by zook
dominating
and what zook said, great song
i saw u at one of my tables..but then u left. You were scared werent u.
SN?Quote:
Originally Posted by AnTman_69
It was prob a shitty table, select better?
You're playing Holdem now???
What happened to Omahahahaha???
Good luck with it Swig.
Itss Antman_B89. Numbers at the end coz for some strange reason..theres other antmans out there. GL with it...race to 100nl?
I was unknowingly playing Omaha under rolled. I've been working with a couple FTRers on HE so there's more motivation.
In theory that's a great idea, except I have a full time job and I don't want to be pressing at all because I've finally found a groove (or finally ran hot). GL though, and it's the same SN on AIM if you want to chat.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnTman_69
I cannot play FTR games. It's ridiculous. When I was getting near the 50NL bubble I kept blowing $20-50 here and there (this was prop bet stuff). My BR stagnates and it tilts me. Then I look at my HEM graph and I'm like WTF, I'm winning monies.
Now I'm getting close to 100NL and doing it again.
DON'T FUCK AROUND WITH YOUR MONIES!!!
I'm down $200 over the last 10 days or so from 2 FTR games at 25NL, and playing some 1/2 with a friend. Dang, limit is weird.
That's all. If you're trying to move up protect your monies.
~Swig
So people always talk about BR management as a function of the number of buy-ins. Another thing to consider, especially for the people moving up, is preservation. If you don't know that you can beat your stake, or are getting ready to move up stakes you really can't afford to be messing around with your money (see above post). Ironically, the same "it's chips not real money" mentality that is necessary at a poker table can cause problems away from the table.
So I only started playing 50NL a week ago or so. I consider myself "at 50NL", even though my skill set is not really developed for 50NL, it's still developed for 25NL. So, I donk away 4 buy-ins at a FTR 25NL game (2 buy-ins at "my current level"). Then today while I'm adjusting I make a couple bad plays to lose a couple more, run into a couple coolers, and generally don't hit shit. Now I'm down 8 buy-ins for the weekend. :-(
Looking at my roll, or my HEM graph is a little painful. I feel the "can you actually beat this level" mindset creeping back and I've only been here 6k hands. Clearly this is absurd, but it shines a light on two things. One is that I clearly value the money in my roll, even though I don't think of it the same as the money in my bank account. Two, while it is rewarding to "have fun" with this "free money", it is no where near as rewarding as moving stakes, and improving my game. So, when I have a goal (play a lot of hands, move up) that's difficult to achieve anyway (because of full time job) I really can't afford to toss around $100 of my online roll, "just for fun". It's not even the money, but the fact that the money represents steps towards a goal or in this case slipping away from this goal.
Moral of the story for those "in development". Everything you do with your roll affects your progress. You have to pay as you're learning, and any misuse of funds has the same huge affect on your short term win rate as a couple coolers.
To reward you for reading that, here's one of my favorite hip-hop songs. I turned the beginning into a ring tone (assigned to incoming calls):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSszWXkDHa8
Here's my picture of the day from the gallery:
http://www.flopturnriver.com/photos/....php?pos=-1335
Dropped 4 buy-ins after writing this on nothing but coolers, and the worst possible flops.
Fuck you Jerry "Dude, don't play 25NL, you'll move up so much faster if you play 50NL and be a balla" Gator
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/81/20081220gw6.png
BOOMSHAKALAKA
Rofl, you're gonna crush 50nl man. First off, stop trying to convince yourself its different. People talk that shit for some reason, I dunno why, self-justification I guess. Very little difference. People will 3-bet slightly more instead of calling when you steal from LP. Thats about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by swiggidy
Now just dont do my trick and get discouraged by a downswing ;).
Move down if you don't think you have the skill, but just make sure you remember to try and move up as soon as possible to keep increasing your skill.
Maybe a bit of time off would help you refocus as well, like 1 week off just doing things you enjoy such as playing sports or watching a TV series you enjoy could really help you get back into poker very refreshed and ready to kill the tables.
You sound a bit tilted and as everyone knows... playing on tilt is horrible. GL with whatever you choose to do.
Dude - I feel your pain. I'm one level behind u... moved from $10 to $25 a few months back. Took the roll up $1K over those two months and was feeling pretty good... Have dumped over $350 over the past two weeks by (in part) losing 17 out of the last 20 stack-offs with > than 75% equity when the $ went in. I def think looking at the HEM graph is worst. So I don't.
But reading your successful trip to $50NL helps keep it real. GL & looking forward to more.... :shock:
You must of missed my post. That was totally me being discouraged by a downswing.Quote:
Originally Posted by bjsaust
There is a difference. It's that there are a higher quantity of quality players, and there are players better than anyone I saw at 25NL. However, by continuing to practice good table selection (i.e. avoiding these players) I believe I agree that it's not really that different. Another difference is my current game won't be crushing 50NL, where I felt I was crushing 25NL. THAT is a difference that relates to variance that I may write one day, if after some more experience I feel it is worthwhile.
Conveniently, xmas gave me a week off away from thinking about anything besides eating and drinking. Still getting shit on tonight, but have the right mindset about it, but that'sQuote:
Originally Posted by xptboy
Thx & GL. Hoping to start adding something that resembles content here. I agree that thought is shocking...Quote:
Originally Posted by sar
box68
I was looking at my database again this morning. I'm on a $800 downswing :shock:. That's even more amazing because my roll wasn't even $800 in early Nov. So yay that I can lose that much without going busto, but it does make me feel sick to think about. Not really because of what $800 would do IRL (not help much), but because the variance is sick.
This is the 3rd time I've had a 10 BI upswing, followed immediately by a 10 BI downswing. It happened for Omaha, when I restarted HE at 25NLFR, and again here when I moved up to 50NL 6max. I was subconsciously scared of this happening too, especially since I didn't really feel comfortable yet at 50NL.
What's the first thing people say? Small sample size. Ok fine, so I look at some hands. I flopped like god during the upswing, and got turn 2-3 outered at least 4 times during the downswing. lolcashaments. All I can take from this is that I'm currently a 1-2bb/100 winner AT BEST. This leaves no margin for error which is unacceptable with downswings affecting me so much mentally. (honestly thought about quitting again this morning).
I finally have an ok sample size for 25NL. I'm running about 6bb/100 over 40k hands which is pretty shitty for an "lol easy" game. I notice 3x 10 BI downswings in that sample.
What I'm taking from this, is that I need to be able to tolerate a 10 buy-in downswing like it's nothing. Thus, 20 BI isn't good enough for me mentally. I'm going back to 25NL, grinding up ~$400, then will take a 50NL shot again when I get to a $1500 BR.
Such a long hilly road...
Damn dude tough luck. Definitely keep at it (and maybe no more FTR cash games?). I think 50NL is very different than 25NL but you should be able to beat it pretty solidly from knowing your game somewhat. If you ever want to sweat or something over the next few weeks give me a hollaaaa.
Meh, maybe I was lucky with my opponents, or maybe my 25nl game was well suited to 50nl. I really noticed very little difference at all. Downswing sucks, do some serious analysis and work out if its something you're doing wrong, or just variance.
By 50NL being better I mean the regs are better for the most part. You'll probably find nearly the same amount of fish if you play at the right times and some regs are just god awful but there will be some that will finally start thinking about your range as opposed to just his. But I think it's kind of easy to stay one step ahead of them. You'll often find yourself wanting to get 2 levels ahead (at least I do) and end up pwning yourself.
Quote:
Originally Posted by swiggidy
Welcome to the club, swiggidy.
I ran away from cash because it was detrimental to my mental health, basically because of this shit. I could not handle it. My ego cannot handle playing bad or running bad and having to take a step down in stakes because of it. It, for lack of better wording, compounds on itself, shrinking your dick to never before seen levels.
So instead, I then went with an ultra-nitty approach, like 200BI or something.
This is also basically why I uninstalled poker tracker etc. It will fuck you up worse, like kicking you when you are already down. It basically serves for satisfying online pissing contests etc. (I MADE MOAR THAN U LAST MONTH) but serves little purpose other than when you watch the next valley, then another peak, then another valley. And remembering you that you got your money in 95% good, but still lost. And again. And again. And soon you will start asking yourself if its even possible to lose so many river 19:1.
You are, and will always be, your own worst enemy at the poker table. Its a cliche, but its goddamn true.
The only spot in my life that I see room for more than marginal improvement is poker. This is kind of depressing, and I think the reason that poker failures get me so down. This is bad because it adds another pressure to a situation that needs time to develop. And also sad because I'm obviously not trying hard enough.
I hope this mini-revelation motivates me some, although I have been doing a lot better with that recently (except for the necessary time off after swings and what not).
I'm kind of feeling down in general do to a couple different life things. One being money and debt, which poker could, should (will?) help with. I'm developing a plan for 2009, and will post details when I'm more awake/less drunk.
K, well I'm back now for 09. Played 2k hands today 4-6 tabling 25NL, so probably about 5 hours. I'm content with that. Finished up 2 buy-ins.
On a buzzed whim I 2 tabled 50NL and won a buy-in over 75 hands, so up $100 on the day. Weeeee.
I got $100 on the bonus, so currently I'm working towards 2k VPP which will be 16k hands. After that many hands I should be up $300ish + the bonus which would put me over $1500. After that I'm taking a serious shot at 50NL again. I've considered moving to FT because I have rakeback that I don't use, but everyone says move back to PS for 100NL, so not sure it's worth it.
After my bitching about the downswing I'd like to add that I'm pretty happy after today. It's nothing special, but I feel extremely confident at the 25NL tables now, so at least I've progressed since June.
Jeesh, it's been 3 weeks :-/
I "started" playing again yesterday. 500 hands the last 2 days, but + 3 buy-ins, lol. You'd think that would encourage me to play more. I was bored and wasn't sure what to do so I played about 200 hands of Omaha. It almost feels like I have no idea what I'm doing. Maybe that's just because I never got paid when I hit (small sample yo).
Should start cranking out hands again this weekend. Also need to download some videos and start watching so I can play with the big boys and make Tebow proud.
I'm getting shit on by the deck today (and make a couple iffy plays). So since I can't get drunk and ignore life for the rest of the evening I decide to look at my stats.
Ok, this is really depressing.
I have 40k hands of 25NL 6max (just considering 4-6 players). 4bb/100. (2ptbb/100). Fuck me.
So obviously there must be big leaks, right? Thing that gets me is my showdown graph goes straight up, and my non-showdown graph goes straight down. So seems like the place to start...
Saw Shodown = FALSE; VPIP = TRUE
7500 hands, 15bb/100
Saw Shodown = FALSE; VPIP = FALSE
30k hands, -20bb/100
Cliff notes: I'm winning in every measurable quantity except folding my blinds. Clearly I'm missing value/spewing on later streets, but this is stupid.
For now I'm going to play FR for awhile. I need 1400 VPP to clear the stars bonus, then I'm shipping my funds to FT and using my rakeback (which would currently double my win-rate) until my roll is well over $2k. Then we'll see.
Non-Showdown winnings is SUCH a hard thing to nail down. Mine tends to head southwards when I start calling PF with speculative hands.
So I was sitting around today, and I realized, ever since I moved to columbus, every single winter has been worse than the winter before it. So that means that every single winter that you see me, that's on the worst winter of my life.
Woah.. that's really messed up.
Damn swigg :( . Reminds me of Office Space though.
Good luck!!
Did you learn poker yet, fairy boy?
Tebow says: MY COCK IS WAY BIGGER THAN YOURS!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by bigred
Quote:
Originally Posted by kingnat
This is a better dual response than I could ever have hoped for.Quote:
Originally Posted by kmind
No and it's pathetic. I suck at massively multitabling other wise I'd follow in your footsteps.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigred
My goal this year is to make $10k. I haven't broken down how it's going to happen yet, but I'm basically restricted to 10hrs a week average. So $20/hr average (for the year) should be doable (I hope).
Then if I can make $20k in 2010 I'll have reached financial freedom.
Biggest problem is this leaves a lot of time for a girl to fuck everything up.
You're Tim Tebow. The only thing you're fucking is Jesus.Quote:
Originally Posted by swiggidy
Oh, my biggest advice for multitabling after playing 20 tables for a little under a week is fold. When in doubt, fold.
Hero calls rarely are.
I take off work friday. Have played 3k hands 4-6 tabling 6max over the last day and a half. Am 2 buy-ins after just dropping 3 to 2 awesome beats and 2 coolers. It's nice that I'm not down much seeing as how I have never run this bad before.
This is getting extremely frustrating. Can I please just one fucking time not run like complete shit? I have nothing to do for a whole weekend because my life sucks and I just get shit on over and over. Now I'm 6 buy-ins away from taking a shot at 50NL (started the weekend 2 buy-ins away), failing and re-grinding again. So after tomorrow I'll go back to work, still a continuing poker failure, just for another weekend of getting shit on. I'm so fucking excited about the future.
Here's my Dec/Jan 25NL graph
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/439...9decjanbk8.png
The worst part about this, is even if you take away the last 4BI downswing, I'm running at 4bb/100 which is my average "winnings". But every time microstake hand discussion comes up I usually play it at least close to optimal. If I had anything else going on in life I would probably quit poker. But I don't so I grind on.
i love swigg
heh, only took 4 hours this time to calm down and start playing again. Much better IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by givememyleg
Went and played live today, here are some hands I was a little curious about:
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...69.html#828648
Overall it's a nice mixture of nits and donks.
Started with 15k, and I was up to 45k. Chick sits down at the table, 3rd hand open pushes 77 w/ 6k and blinds at 600. I call with KJo from BTN. Probably meh call, 0eV if I saw the hand. Spike J on flop, she spikes 7 on the turn. This is where it starts to fall apart.
Move tables. I open AA for about 2.75x which is my standard (everyone else was doing 5-6x which I loled at alot). BB min-3bets me, I 2.5x 4bet, he shovels, KK. Spikes K on turn obv. From 40k -> 20k.
One orbit later, I ship 99 after a cronic limper and an M of 5. Dude to my right calls and I think I'm fucked. Flips 77. Flop 7h 5h 3h. I stand up shaking my head. Runner-runner hearts for the split.
Uber stack opens UTG, I ship AKo, he snap calls AKo. Split antes and blinds, which isn't terrible for me. (+1k)
After several ship/folds later (I'm pretty sure most won't fight back without JJ+, AJ+). Dude who owned me with KK calls, flips JJ vs my AK. Obv I brick, gg.
Will def be going back. I should have been 2nd stack overall and they're stupid nitty so I would have raped and pillaged my way to top 3 payout, IMO.
Also realized something today. The reason I tilt at the online games is because I don't have time to process what's going on. I can take one or two buy-in beats and kind of just store them in my head to mull over later. But a third, oh shit. That just overloads my system and I freak out. I'm pretty sure I would be super calm live since I have time to process what's going on.
Took the time to run through your op this morning. There are shades of me in this, particularly in the psychology of your downswings, so it was oddly reassuring. That's probably no consolation to you, of course, but thanks.
^^ glad it helped :-)
Weeeee
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Hero (MP) ($18.30)
CO ($28.50)
Button ($12.20)
SB ($19.30)
BB ($27.50)
UTG ($24.55)
Preflop: Hero is MP with Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif
1 fold, Hero raises $1, 1 fold, Button calls $1, SB calls $0.90, BB raises $5.50, Hero raises $17.30 (All-In), Button calls $11.20 (All-In), SB raises $18.30 (All-In), BB calls $13.55
Flop: ($69.10) Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (4 players, 3 all-in)
Turn: ($69.10) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (4 players, 3 all-in)
River: ($69.10) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (4 players, 3 all-in)
Total pot: $69.10
Results:
Button didn't show
SB had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (one pair, nines).
BB had 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif (two pair, sixes and fives).
Hero had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif (two pair, Aces and Kings).
Outcome: BB won $2, Hero won $64.10
BB is my hero.
Wow, looks like we all wanna be Gus Hansen. Do you usually cap off your stack when you're below a full buy in?
Yes. Not religiously, but if it gets below 90bb for sure. I wasn't paying close attention today :oops: which probably means I donked away those $6.Quote:
Originally Posted by dev
stars auto rebuy yo, automatically refill stack when it drops below 100bb
I just cleared that last deposit at PS and moved my monies to FT.
Spent an hour re configuring FT because it hurts my eyes.
Played about 1k hands. Fuck everyone is nitty on that site. Not very impressed (especially for a Sat night). But I made $5 in rakeback, woot!!!
Technically I'm rolled to move up to 50NL, but I'm a nit so I'm going to probably bounce back and forth somewhat. Hopefully keeping the roll moving up while I'm learning.
I was going to also bump my drinking thread, but it's going nowhere so future updates are merged here. I feel this adds to the excitement. "OMG, I'm clicking on Swig's thread. Is it about poker, or alcohol!?!?!? I have no idea."
I would say the time has gone by very fast. (3 weeks, lol)
I've been working out 4+ days a week and played teh pokerz so that's awesome. Think I lost about 4 lbs which is good. I would like to keep this going because I'll be in amazing shape if I keep cutting 5k+ calories/week out of my diet.
Most importantly, I got out of the habit of drinking.
Honestly, I don't really miss it. Which is a little weird because I still love alcohol. Even when I go out and everyone else is drinking I'm not even that sad, so maybe I'll mix in some sober nights even when I do go out. We'll see.
If we hang out and I don't totally represent I take no responsibility. It's every friends fault who got old before I did and stopped supporting my habits. None of them are reading this, but I hope they are all happy with themselves for what they have done.
Until I get good enough at 50NL to offer some continent thoughts I'll just post WTF hands here.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Button ($34.45)
SB ($12.10)
BB ($55.45)
MP ($50)
Hero (CO) ($50)
Preflop: Hero is CO with 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...miles/club.gif, 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif
1 fold, Hero raises $2, Button calls $2, SB raises $4.75, BB calls $4.50, Hero raises $13, 1 fold, SB calls $7.10 (All-In), BB calls $10
Flop: ($44.10) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...es/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...iles/spade.gif (3 players, 1 all-in)
BB checks, Hero bets $35 (All-In) ...
Value -> Isolation -> WTF!?!?!?!
Was about $5 in side pot.
Hey, swig, you ain't kiddin' about nitty. But it's pretty low variance medium profit at 50nl, imo. Hope to see you at my tables soon. Nitty I am not!! :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by swiggidy
GLGLGLGL
WTF when did they add this? My God I am such a donk to have been manually reloading all this time...Quote:
Originally Posted by givememyleg
Thanks for the heads up GMML!
Swigg, Do you remember anything from when you switched from 10NL to 25NL? (assuming you started that low or w/e). I'm starting to take my shots and looking for all the tips I can get!
I never really moved up from 10NL to 25NL. I was playing SnGs forever ago and started playing 25NL when an acceptable BR was $250 (Aug 06 I believe).Quote:
Originally Posted by Illfavor
I would grind 10NL on Boss sites to clear their bonuses, but the play was LOL bad then.
Basically everything I would help you with is in the most recent (only?) BC thread I made. If you want to IM me it's swiggidy, and I'm in IRC almost always when I am online, there are other people who are happy to help there too.
Dropped 2 buy-ins at 50NL losing flips. Took a break, made dinner. Dropped 2.5 buy-ins at 25NL getting completely coolered on every hand.
400 hands => Done for the night
Shitty night, good quit!
Ouch man. What kind of stats do you have and what stacks do you usually play with?
long time ago yo!Quote:
Originally Posted by Outlaw
At 25NL I was running 21/16.5 (large sample). Tightening up a shade, so running 20/15.8.Quote:
Originally Posted by kmind
3bet 4.5% :-/
AF 3, A% 34 :?
Buy-in for 100BB.
I thought you bought in for like 80bb or something. But alright cool. I wouldn't fret your small 3bet% because you can definitely still be profitable. Yeah maybe adjusting it can make it more profitable but it seems fine. And tightening up is so awesome. Feel good.
I was until I started gaining confidence in my turn/river game. I started noticing spots where I was losing value by being less than 100bb (where as, at first I was not losing much value).Quote:
Originally Posted by kmind
For some reason you saying tightening up is fun reminded me that I can get rid of my Teboner in a couple days. Weeee!!!!
BUMP!
UPDATES IMO!
Thanks for the :h: bb.
Last weekend I ran like crap at 50NL over another small sample. So I dropped back down to 25NL and grinded some hands.
I was kind of lazy last week, didn't play a lot. Lazy this weekend. Busy this week. Lame I know.
Down 7 BI @ 25NL over 2k hands so far this month (bulk of that the last 2 days). Interestingly, all of the losses are in showdown hands.
The best part is I'm going to Vegas on Wed so it's good that the confidence is high. :roll:
Since I accepted 10BI swings happen this is more annoying than super tilting.
This hand explains exactly what's happening:
http://weaktight.com/868242