Thanks for the vote Dozer. Somehow,after some of the threads i have made recently critcising stars VIP system for micro stakes players, I don't think stars would be too happy to invite me . From the last reps visit sStars played a blinder. They gave the reps a miniscule budget to reallocate knowing full well that it would be the reps that got ripped to pieces and blamed for the outcome leaving Stars reaping the rewards without the blame.
Originally Posted by daven
Whats the point of the milestone promotion except to generate a massive increase in rake and pay back a miniscule fraction to the milestone winners. Very few people actually benefit from this. Why not actually attract the fish.Offer small ($100) monthly reload bonuses (maybe with a restriction that you can' t take a bonus if you made a withdrawal in the previous month) to persuade the fish to continue depositing and give them a perk.People will still play to clear the bonus, it will help players move up and generate extra rake ,and the bonus will get redistributed around the system and people taking out of the poker economy will be penalised to a certain extent.
Or how about doing something truly radical and getting rid of rake and rake caps altogether and make it so that you pay 1bb to play so many hands at a table (30 ish would work out at ~3 orbits at FR or 5 orbits at 6max and 3.33bb/100 hands).Maybe have a counter in the corner of each table saying how many hands til the next rake payment and an auto rake check box that you can turn off when you intend to leave at the end of your session. This would penalise ratholers as any hands not played would be forfeited. This could also be trialed with these sort of tables running alongside traditionally raked tables.Would this appeal to the fish. they win a 40$ pot and see 40$ in front of them , instead of 38$ after the rake has been taken.
How about working together with other poker rooms and set up some sort of player id system. Players then just have to prove their id,address and banking info and no doubt mac address info could be included as well) and then get a poker id that is shared between rooms collobarating. Players then found to be colluding/cheating/card fraud,transfer scams,running bots etc would then find themselves banned from all the cooperating rooms and not just from the room they get caught on. the AJB4/punkybeau/ cheating may well have been caught by security rather than players if the sites could see when individual players were playing together across different rooms with different screen names if all those screennames had to be linked to a player id or poker passport when signing up for the account. Sharing the cost of security is bound to have a financial benefit to the individual sites by helping to deter fraud and preventing cheating . Individual computers playing 24hrs a day across multiple sites could then be investigated for bot use etc.
If you increase the deterrent effect for people getting caught, i.e you can't then open accounts across the cooperating sites and any existing accounts get shut down this should cut down the amount of fraud going on and reduce the cost to the individual rooms. Players benefit as they would only have to prove their identity and details once to the central "passport" issuing department making life easier for the players making withdrawals/deposits.
In such a situation though it is only fair that just as the sites get greater information about the players , the players should also get greater security for their money they have on the sites, which would require the sites cooperating to abide by some fundamentall rules to protect the players deposits.
1. All player funds held by the sites should be segregated and seperated so that players fund can never be stolen by the sites managers/seized as company assets as has happened at fulltilt /cereus and the current uncertainty about everleafs deposits. Stars actions after black friday repaying the usa players fund as they were identifiable as usa players funds should be the minimum that we as players should expect and the licensing authorities should regularly inspect the fundson deposit and in players accounts to see that players funds are indeed safe.
2. ONLY THE PLAYER WHO is the registered poker passport holder for an account can DEPOSIT to and WITHDRAW from that account via methods that the account holder has previously registered with passport control.Ths should then stop hackers from making small deposits to an account and then withdrawing the whole balance to the hackers account.
3. only cleared funds should be allowed to be used to play. If funds aren't cleared then players have to wait until they can play with those funds.
4. If multiple sites are cooperating,provide players with a free RSA token /tokens that can be used across all sites on the cooperating poker rooms. I.e one free RSA token for a main computer and secondary (purchased) token(s) for use with a laptop that are then linked back to the players passport.