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ender555
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04-28-2005, 09:22 PM
Post subject: Using neteller for multi accounts..
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Full House
Join Date: Mar 2005
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I was trying to use netellers on my roommates account so taht I could get all the bonus's over again..
somereason it wouldnt let me deposit.. can u do that?
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Cocco_Bill
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Full House
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Don't try and get the same bonus from the same address twice or they might just lock your account.
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ender555
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Full House
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Originally Posted by Cocco_Bill
Don't try and get the same bonus from the same address twice or they might just lock your account.
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Alright thanks for the advice, what about using the same neteller account from a different address to a different account?
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ensign_lee
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: The University of TEXAS at Austin
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No. That probably won't work.
The link here that the poker sites look at is your neteller account. You can't have one neteller account funding multiple poker accoutns at one poker site.
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ender555
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Full House
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 647
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Originally Posted by ensign_lee
No. That probably won't work.
The link here that the poker sites look at is your neteller account. You can't have one neteller account funding multiple poker accoutns at one poker site.
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Damn, okay thanks
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DaNutsInYoEye
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Apr 2004
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I wouldn't recommend opening multiple accounts to anyone. Unless you're careful and use a little bit of common sense you're on fast track to getting yourself banned. Poker sites will not hesistate to lock your accounts and keep your money if they think this is going on. You have little to no recourse if they decide to do this. My general rule is one Neteller account per person, per bonus, per site. If you already used your Neteller account to obtain a bonus on a site, you're finished with that bonus, for that account, for that site. There are ways to open multiple accounts per site with one Neteller account, but doing this is treading on very thin ice so to speak, and it's simply not worth it IMO.
You simply can't forget that poker sites and also the payment services (Neteller, IGMPay, etc.) track the access of their accounts, including when and where they are being accessed and what transactions are taking place. If you think you're being smooth you're probably not.
Free money is nice, but when you start getting greedy you start to make mistakes and you put yourself in a position to get your account locked. Not only this, but you potentially ruin it for all the other people that play by the rules. Habitual abuse of bonuses is a good way to make poker rooms discontinue bonuses or change their policies. Remember when all party skin bonuses were 5X? Now, they are typically 7X and some even have 10X raked hand requirements. There are plenty of examples of account specific bonuses that were discontinued because people that weren't offered the bonus tried using the bonuses for themself anyways.
Yes, I am somewhat of a hypocrite because I definately take full advantage off all the bonuses offered and push the edge a little bit with others. I try to be smart about it though. You need to find ways to play within their rules, not ways of trying to go around them.
If you have specific questions feel free to PM me or talk with me on IRC. Also check out www.bonuswhores.com
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Full House
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Yes, I'm quoting myself, but I want to be heard.
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Originally Posted by eeeee
Let me be a wet blanket here and say ...
Don't kill the goose that lays golden eggs.
I'm just getting into the swing of bonus chasing, and it is a very good thing. And it is temping to want MORE. But there is plenty of free money to work on honestly, without faking a second account. Sure, it can be done, but please don't try.
On a global level, bonuses will shrink, rakeback situations will dry up, and referral offers will dissapate as fraud expands. Everyone loses.
On a personal appeal, I'd hate for you to be the guy who gets his account frozen, perhaps across several linked poker rooms. What if you lost access to all Party rooms? Or all Prima rooms?
And -- and -- AND! FTR waves the 'no collusion!' banner, so we should also speak up over cheating the house with fraud. Many FTR members benefit from signups, and from honest poker, and I've noticed several members planning to invest in IPO for Party stocks. Just out of self interest, we need to discourage fraud against the house. I'm not pure, but sometimes groups standards can help each individual hold a higher standard - positive peer pressure.
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I'm a know-it-all.
No, really.
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EasyT
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Full House
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Just so I'm clear:
I have one account at Empire.
I have one account at Party.
But I moved money from Empire to Party through a single Neteller account.
Am I asking for trouble if I routinely move money from one site to the other uning a single Neteller account (for whoring purposes)?
Thanks.
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Full House
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Originally Posted by EasyT
Just so I'm clear:
I have one account at Empire.
I have one account at Party.
But I moved money from Empire to Party through a single Neteller account.
Am I asking for trouble if I routinely move money from one site to the other uning a single Neteller account (for whoring purposes)?
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No, you're OK.
Party sites may have some fine print that might say you aren't to have accounts on different skins. In practice, the separate skins are glad to have you play on their site, and don't want to boot you. The principle here is "no collusion", and this is enforced with IP addresses and table blocking, not by seizure of an entire account.
If Party, the main site, ever wanted to change the rules, or interpret them differently, (or even enforce the rules that may already be there) then they will, and I imagine they will do so gently (or all the money will flow elsewhere.)
Again, as has probably been stated elsewhere, we have no real control over these offshore entities, and profitable business is consensual business. So expect fair and honest behavior. Behave fair and honest yourself. Don't trust too much. Stick up for your interests, but don't kill the goose that lays the golden eggs, and expect them to be smart enough to do the same. And you are their golden goose, unless you double sign, collude, defraud, offend other cusomers, etc.
I am not a laywer, but pretend to know more than one on public forums.
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I'm a know-it-all.
No, really.
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EasyT
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Full House
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Yo Mamma
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Thanks, eeeee.
Look me up sometime under my NEW screenname at Party sometime again and we'll play.
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ensign_lee
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: The University of TEXAS at Austin
Posts: 2,237
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Originally Posted by EasyT
Just so I'm clear:
I have one account at Empire.
I have one account at Party.
But I moved money from Empire to Party through a single Neteller account.
Am I asking for trouble if I routinely move money from one site to the other uning a single Neteller account (for whoring purposes)?
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No.
What we were referring to was having two accounts at the same poker room. i.e.
Hypothetically,
I have an account named ewlee at Party. I also have an account ewlee2 at Party. This is a no no.
Hypothetically,
I have an account named ewlee at Party. I also have an account ewlee2 at, say Pokernow. This is ok.
Everyone clear?
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