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Lukie

03-09-2006, 07:44 PM Post subject: Reporting a cheater: Tiffany M

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Just something I'd like everyone to be aware of.. I know a lot of players on FTR play the middle stakes games. It shouldn't be a problem now, but I'd try to avoid this guy on the tables with all-in protection.

Copy of email from stars:

Hello Eric,

Thank you for bringing the play of Tiffany M to our attention. After
reviewing the play of this individual, I agree that the timing and
nature of this player's disconnects can be deemed suspicious. While
we can never be 100% certain that Tiffany M was intentionally
disconnecting, these disconnects are disruptive to our games and may
represent a threat to the integrity of our games. In response, I have
notified this player that his or her all-in privileges are being
suspended.

The help of players like yourself is integral to maintaining the
integrity of our games on PokerStars. If you see any further
suspicious activity from this individual or any other player, please
contact Support so that we can investigate and take action.

Thank you again for letting me be of assistance, and I hope you
continue to enjoy playing at PokerStars.

Regards,

Joanne
PokerStars Support Team

----- Original Message -----
From: lukiestyle3@hotmail.com
Sent: 2006/03/09 01:53:04
To: support@pokerstars.com
Subject: reporting disconnect abuse

>I would like to report Tiffany M for blatantly absuing the disconnect on
>your NL200 table. At no point in any hand did he have any trouble with
>connection issues or have trouble playing in a timely manner. As you can
>see in this hand, he has a straight draw that he clearly cannot correctly
>call my bet with, so he goes into d/c mode to see a free showdown. I know
>pokerstars has an outstanding reputation for keeping the integrity of the
>games at the highest level possible, so I hope you deal with this
situation
>appropriately. Thanks for your time.
>
>
>PokerStars Game #4224878936: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2006/03/09 -
>00:34:41 (ET)
>Table 'Italia' Seat #4 is the button
>Seat 1: Lukieplaya ($200 in chips)
>Seat 2: Shazmeister ($654.85 in chips)
>Seat 3: terjebull ($265.35 in chips)
>Seat 4: Tiffany M ($158 in chips)
>Seat 5: sino1129 ($42.95 in chips)
>Seat 6: HOOVER-69 ($156.20 in chips)
>Seat 7: JuanchoR ($40.60 in chips)
>Seat 8: thinair56 ($220.75 in chips)
>Seat 9: zalomoon ($60.25 in chips)
>sino1129: posts small blind $1
>HOOVER-69: posts big blind $2
>*** HOLE CARDS ***
>Dealt to Lukieplaya [Ad Kd]
>JuanchoR: folds
>thinair56: folds
>Shazmeister said, "o"
>zalomoon: calls $2
>Shazmeister said, "wat do u do?"
>Lukieplaya: raises $7 to $9
>Shazmeister: folds
>terjebull: folds
>Tiffany M: calls $9
>thinair56 said, "and to think I folded 5K"
>sino1129: folds
>HOOVER-69: calls $7
>zalomoon: folds
>*** FLOP *** [8s Kc 9c]
>HOOVER-69: checks
>thinair56 said, "lol"
>thinair56 said, "computer stuff"
>Lukieplaya: bets $21
>Tiffany M: calls $21
>HOOVER-69: folds
>*** TURN *** [8s Kc 9c] [6h]
>Lukieplaya: bets $40
>Tiffany M is disconnected
>thinair56 said, "oh no"
>thinair56 said, "not the disconnection"
>Tiffany M has timed out while disconnected
>Tiffany M is being treated as all-in
>*** RIVER *** [8s Kc 9c 6h] [3c]
>*** SHOW DOWN ***
>Lukieplaya: shows [Ad Kd] (a pair of Kings)
>thinair56 said, "is it coincidence or conveniently timed?"
>Tiffany M: mucks hand
>Tiffany M is sitting out
>Lukieplaya collected $69 from pot
>*** SUMMARY ***
>Total pot $72 | Rake $3
>Board [8s Kc 9c 6h 3c]
>Seat 1: Lukieplaya showed [Ad Kd] and won ($69) with a pair of Kings
>Seat 2: Shazmeister folded before Flop (didn't bet)
>Seat 3: terjebull folded before Flop (didn't bet)
>Seat 4: Tiffany M (button) mucked [Qd Jd]
>Seat 5: sino1129 (small blind) folded before Flop
>Seat 6: HOOVER-69 (big blind) folded on the Flop
>Seat 7: JuanchoR folded before Flop (didn't bet)
>Seat 8: thinair56 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
>Seat 9: zalomoon folded before Flop

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all-in protection/disconnect protection is so LAME. Ugh, I can't stand it, especially when it is so blatantly abused like this.

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03-09-2006, 08:15 PM

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SuperDave9x19

03-09-2006, 08:24 PM

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your E-Mail was excellently written as opposed to:

To :PokerStars:
Re: TiffanyM cheater

lol lol cheating bitch, get her off!!

Thank you.

Been playing money poker for 34 years and decided in 2002 to try that TX Holdem game on TV. Then found Pokerstars in Summer 2005. Still not an overall winner but i am on a good trend and nearly there.

dvda

03-09-2006, 10:16 PM

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I have seen this tactic used 3 times now on PS, and was only complaining about this yesterday.

If I see this move in action again, I’ll be reporting it too.

Pelion

03-09-2006, 10:30 PM Post subject: Re: Reporting a cheater: Tiffany M

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukie

Hello Eric...

Wtf? Why are you called Lukie?!

gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.

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siknd

03-10-2006, 05:05 AM

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i like partys option of having some tables with DP (presumably for ppl with sketchy connections) and the majority with NO DP whatsoever.

'If you think a weakness can be turned into a strength, I hate to tell you this, but that's another weakness. '

ProZachNation

03-10-2006, 05:41 AM

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Im against disconnect protection, if you are playing 200NL then you should be able to afford to pay for a decent ISP. In a perfect world DP would be fine and no one would use it to their advanatge, but people will exploit any thing they can for a buck.

So maybe I am not against DP, with a site like Stars, who has amazing support then people using to their advantage will be stopped but I think it should only be in place if it is highly regulated.

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midas06

03-10-2006, 08:26 AM

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I disagree. I was playing relatively high stakes on a dialup connection, should I be held against by others if I do accidentally disconnect?

Note: My current broadband is more sketchy than dialup ever was

siknd

03-10-2006, 01:07 PM

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perhaps in a DP situation the disco'd person should just be returned his contribution to the pot, but lose entitlement to opponent bets?

'If you think a weakness can be turned into a strength, I hate to tell you this, but that's another weakness. '

swiggidy

03-10-2006, 01:59 PM

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Then they would disconnect when the draw/A hit or the board paired.

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03-10-2006, 03:56 PM

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I thought stars didn't have DP in NLHE games

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