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jyms
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09-09-2007, 11:07 PM
Post subject: Rakethrake is wrong!
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Tilting Mod
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Has anyone ever noticed a large discrepency in there Rake stats posted on this site or any other? I have $2000 in rake at AP last month according to my PT database, but RTR has me listed at $1260. What is the best way to go about this? Has anything ever been done before?
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bigspenda73
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yes, it's way off for me as well, if we get enough players to show them this maybe they'll make the change.
I guess we could send screenshots of our databases with the date ranges in the picture....
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jyms
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I will definitely wait for payment, since it is possible that they just are behind on the update or AP never sent them some info. But yes with enough people wrong and a mass email we can definitely prove some wrongdoing.
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givememyleg
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They could give rakeback based on other factors though, right? The rake you yourself have paid may be 2k, but they might pay rakeback based on everyone that was involved in a pot or something. Check their terms.
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Anosmic
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Full House
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Most sites use MGR and that figure is usually accruate in PT IME.
I usually do my rb calcs in pokergrapher.
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bode
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i use raketherake and they were always spot on with what i had in PT. I never checked the rake tracker site much, but i always was paid the exact amount PT had me at. I would wait until they pay to even bring it up.
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daven
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Doesn't PT show rake deducted from pots you won rather than your contributed rake? Dunno, holding the cursor over that stat brings up "Total rake paid by player in hands player won" which is different from the rake that rakeback is calculated on I think?
or maybe it's just a timing thing? you could ask them? or chuck the question to the poker tracker forum?
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Anosmic
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APs calculations seem to be fairly complex.
AFAIK you get a proportion of the rake credited to you in proportion to your betting. So if you put in $40 into a $80 pot 50% of the rake is yours.
If you put in $10 into a $40 you are due 25% of the rake.
Obviously you then get 30% of the total of this.
The PT main stat is for pots you won, which not only includes rake contributed by others but also ignores those times you contributed to the pot and lost.
Code:
http://www.pokertracker.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17024&view=previous&sid=200b2c66413b04bf01399cdd96eed0cc
PT isn't going to help you directly with this, you'll need to have a go with SQL:
Code:
http://www.pokertracker.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12294
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jyms
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Yea, nothing is coming close no matter how I calculate it. Even Pokergrapher is too far off. I guess it's a matter of trust and trying other sites to see if they are different.
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Anosmic
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You've used the SQL script?
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djzcko
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AP's calc method is different and results in a seriously lower rakeback % than what PT tracks (rake paid in hands won). However, since they are one of the few rooms that pay rakeback as well as bonuses together, it works out to be better than any std rakeback plan. So with both Rakeback and bonuses, I get about 50% of my PT rake paid back to me.
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Immulatin
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are you playing at jackpot tables?
I dont think that poker tracker counts the jackpot rake yet, but I'm just throwing that idea out there
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djzcko
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PT counts BBJ rake as normal rake.
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jyms
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No, PT counts BBJ as BBJ rake and after checking back it has never been right. Just with so many hands I just noticed it more this month.
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djzcko
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Trainer_jyms
No, PT counts BBJ as BBJ rake and after checking back it has never been right. Just with so many hands I just noticed it more this month.
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Max rake at AP is $3 and BBJ rake is .50. I see $3.50 rake in PT in all my big pots. There is no seperate PT stat that tells me BBJ rake vs regular rake. PT puts them both in the same pot.
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jyms
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What version?? You really should try the updates.
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djzcko
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No stats is my point. Sure, it's there in the details of each hand but what good is that? We are both correct--you just don't get my point. Rake and BBJ are lumped into the rake stat in the summary section...the "rake paid" stat in PT includes BBJ rake.
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jyms
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scroll right
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djzcko
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Flush
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OK, works in yours but doesn't in mine. Mine says 0. Logged 25k hands since the BBJ and still says 0.
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jyms
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Again, what version are you using. I circled that too. there are updates on PT all the time. You probably need to update
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djzcko
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ver 2.16.03d. PT website says that is the latest. How did you get 2.17?
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daven
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Another suggestion. Select the sessions/date range that you are interested. Go to the summary tab. This has a (better?) rake value that may be more useful. At the same time you can see who is taking all the money at your tables....
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Anosmic
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Has anyone tried to calculate contributed rake with a script or anything? How are you coming up with your figures?
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