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Zee Devee
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08-28-2007, 01:06 AM
Post subject: rakeback, bonuses, and changing rooms questions
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Full House
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Primarilly I am a SnG/MTT player, but I suck, so I think I am going to switch to cash- to work on my post flop play, hand reading, ranges, etc...
Currently I play on Stars, and I signed up when there was no bonus so I just played with the money I put in.
I want to start getting rakeback, but I don't know how or where- does it cost anything to get?
Is there any way to get any type of bonus on Stars, or should I move to Full Tilt or Ultimate Bet or something along those lines?
I've been here almost a year and I still don't know this stuff, I suck, I know.
Thanks.
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thizzSantaCruz
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PS doesnt have rb but FT and UB do. UB is waaaaaay softer than FT but FTs rakeback is 3% better i think.
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Zee Devee
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Ok, so if I switch to UB, how do I get rakeback? Through something like raketracker.com?
Does applying for rakeback cost money?
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Jack Sawyer
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Originally Posted by Zee Devee
Ok, so if I switch to UB, how do I get rakeback? Through something like raketracker.com?
Does applying for rakeback cost money? |
Google is your friend.
Basically, you have to create a new account through the rakeback processor, following their instructions.
If you already have a real money account on the site in question, you are not applicable.
Examples are raketherake.com, pokerhand.org, rakebrain.com, rakefreeze.com etc.
GL
(I wish I applied for rakeback when I started playing at UB. Oh bother.)
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SilverRB
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Originally Posted by thizzSantaCruz
PS doesnt have rb but FT and UB do. UB is waaaaaay softer than FT but FTs rakeback is 3% better i think. |
no FT is 27% rakeback
while UB is 30% rakeback
but FT is Dealt method, while UB is Contributed method
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Shifubowa
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Originally Posted by SilverRB
but FT is Dealt method, while UB is Contributed method |
What does this mean? Is one better than the other?
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SilverRB
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How is MGR calculated: Different poker sites will figure your MGR in different ways. There are 3 different ways this is figured.
The first is called the dealt method. As long as you are dealt cards you will earn MGR on the hand (as long as the pot is raked). For example, if you are playing with 10 players at the table and all of them are dealt in and the pot is raked $1.50, you will earn 10/1.50 or 15 cents for this hand. Once again, you only have to be dealt in to earn MGR on the hand; you do not have to actually contribute to the pot. The formula for this is: ($ amount raked) /(amount of players dealt in) = MGR
The second method is average contributed. This means not only do you have to be dealt in, but you also have to contribute to the pot in some way (even if you fold the small blind). An example of this would be, if 10 players are dealt in the hand, but only 6 contribute to the pot (including you) and the pot is raked $3.00, you will earn 6/$3.00 or 50 cents in MGR. The formula for this is similar to the above: (($ amount raked) / Amount of players contributed to the pot) = MGR
The third method is weighted contributed. This means not only do you have to be dealt in, but, once again, you will have to contribute to the pot in some way. The difference between this method and the “average contributed” method above is that your MGR is figured in direct proportion to the amount of money you put in the pot. For example, 10 people are dealt in the hand and 8 of them contribute to the pot (including you), but after you have contributed $20 to the pot total, you fold on fourth street (along with 5 other players), 1 person folds on the turn, and 2 people see the showdown. The final pot is $240 and is raked $3. Since you contributed $20 to the $240 pot, you will earn $20 / $240 or 8.33% of the $3 rake, which is 24.99 cents. The formula is: (amount contributed to the pot / $ amount of pot ) * ($ amount raked) = MGR
UB rakeback is capped at 30% , weighted contributed is not an advantageous system at all for you as NL player. If you strictly look at the rakeback % , I would suggest you find another site that has Dealt method to play on for higher rakeback revenue.. however, you also have to look at the players skill level ofcourse. Don't be blinded by the rakeback % or system.
in short, DEALT is the best option for players
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EasyT
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You might look for prop offers too. Propping is like being an employee of the pokersite. Usually it's only newer sites that hire props to build traffic and be able to offer a greater table selection. Often it's in the rules that you must open new tables, or play on tables that aren't already full. Can get 100% rakeback, sometimes even better.
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Miffed22001
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if you cant or dont want to pick a site in the dark PM some of the major posters on the site or people who hang around in here and you get referred (please dont sign up without being refrred it keeps money in our pockets)
If you want info PM me or easyT or anyone from here.
Basically, rakeback is ok these days, but it sucks compared to how it used to be.
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pankfish
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Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
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Originally Posted by Zee Devee
Ok, so if I switch to UB, how do I get rakeback? Through something like
Does applying for rakeback cost money? |
Google is your friend.
Basically, you have to create a new account through the rakeback processor, following their instructions.
If you already have a real money account on the site in question, you are not applicable.
GL
(I wish I applied for rakeback when I started playing at UB. Oh bother.) |
Is an account considered a real money account when you register through the .com address instead of the .net? I haven't deposited any money yet, but I do have an account with a link to the cashier.
I don't expect anyone to really have a sure answer on this, but if someone has a pretty good idea then a shove in the right direction would be appreciated.
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Miffed22001
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Originally Posted by pankfish
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Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
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Originally Posted by Zee Devee
Ok, so if I switch to UB, how do I get rakeback? Through something like
Does applying for rakeback cost money? |
Google is your friend.
Basically, you have to create a new account through the rakeback processor, following their instructions.
If you already have a real money account on the site in question, you are not applicable.
GL
(I wish I applied for rakeback when I started playing at UB. Oh bother.) |
Is an account considered a real money account when you register through the .com address instead of the .net? I haven't deposited any money yet, but I do have an account with a link to the cashier.
I don't expect anyone to really have a sure answer on this, but if someone has a pretty good idea then a shove in the right direction would be appreciated. |
if you havent made a deposit you can probably get away with it not being an account or a real one.
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Mikefive
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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I'm currently getting 40% rakeback on ipokernetwork.
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geordie
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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I'm currently getting 45% on ipokernetwork.
50% possible, but had account on that iPoker site before 
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