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evman150
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05-17-2005, 05:42 AM
Post subject: Poker Stars
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Why do so many people play at PokerStars? I think it is the most overrated site there is. It probably has the best players anywhere, the software is mediocre at best, there is no first time deposit bonus and the insanely infrequent reload bonuses take forever to clear.
My feeling is that it's all hype. People see those two flukeshows win the WSOP via PokerStars so they sign up. Doesn't matter if the whole site is a piece of shit, they sign up anyway. New to online poker? Try Stars! The competition is hard and you don't get any bonus money but Moneymaker and Raymer play here so sign up!
Seriously, I have played every major poker site and Stars has got to be the worst one out there overall. All hype.
To the people who play there, why the hell do you do it?
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Curtis-E
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Halleluah, or however the F%#@ it's spelled.
I agree Poker Stars is no better than 10-15 other rooms out there.
I do like the 9 player tables, and the software never bogs, but why the hell would I want to play at a site where everyone says the competition is so great? In fact, I have experienced 10 times the suckouts on Stars vs Party.
I don't think the site is bad, but definitely not worth all the hype.
I have many friends who wonder why they can never win a MTT.
I ask them, where are you playing? They answer Poker Stars.
Duh retards, it's tough to beat 1000 players. Try some other smaller sites with 100 to 200 entries per tourny.
Don't get me wrong, Stars is a good site, but it baffles me how many people play solely at Stars and no where else.
Could you be any dumber? Probably.
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PROFESSIONAL TROLL
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Good tournaments and come on, it's POKERSTARS
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LOL OPERATIONS
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scgolfer
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Full House
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lol cant even comment
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Holy crap I cant play against Yoda!!
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Full House
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The tournament set up (1500 chips, etc.) is not as punishing, and for the good guys, the payoff is worth the 4 hours labor. The software is solid -- smooth overlapping 4 table on my old win98 machine, where Party was bogging down with 3 tables and losing me hands. Prompt support. No flashing popups. And I've heard the same 'tough competition' rap about Ultimate Bet, but when you are learning, do you want to be rewarded for -EV plays? Short term, yes, long term, no. Long term, learn a solid game and go rape the other sites for bonuses. Is it the best site? Probably not. Will I keep recommending it to noobs -- yup.
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I'm a know-it-all.
No, really.
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evman150
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Originally Posted by eeeee
The tournament set up (1500 chips, etc.) is not as punishing, and for the good guys, the payoff is worth the 4 hours labor. The software is solid -- smooth overlapping 4 table on my old win98 machine, where Party was bogging down with 3 tables and losing me hands. Prompt support. No flashing popups. And I've heard the same 'tough competition' rap about Ultimate Bet, but when you are learning, do you want to be rewarded for -EV plays? Short term, yes, long term, no. Long term, learn a solid game and go rape the other sites for bonuses. Is it the best site? Probably not. Will I keep recommending it to noobs -- yup. |
Other sites have 1500 chips as well. Other sites have good support. Only Pacific gives me popups. I want to win money. Winning money comes first, getting better comes second. It just seems so ridiculous to play this site when there are so many better ones out there. I suppose if you're one of those weak shit players who play $5 sit and goes all day and make a dollar an hour stars might be a good site, but for everyone else? I'll take Party, Prima, Absolute, Paradise, Poker Room and just about any other major site over Stars.
I don't see ANY reason why a noob should join Poker Stars. I don't see any reason why ANYBODY would play there. It's all hype. And you haven't convinced me otherwise.
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drmcboy
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Why do you care?
Some of us WANT to get better. I want to make actual money, not not learn how to beat moronic fish in 25NL so I can pull out 150 bucks a week. You do that by beating the best.
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The_Cheat
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there are sharks lurking around the PP NL25's
like me, sometimes.
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I like their tourneys, and i've found the 100nl to be much softer on Pokerstars than on party poker, thats why i play there.
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Full House
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Originally Posted by evman150
I'll take Party, Prima, Absolute, Paradise, Poker Room and just about any other major site over Stars.
I don't see ANY reason why a noob should join Poker Stars. I don't see any reason why ANYBODY would play there. It's all hype. And you haven't convinced me otherwise.  |
uhhh, OK .... 
Did PStars kill your dog or something?
Were you expecting to be convinced, or were you sincerely looking for insight into other peoples' preferences? Because most people like what they like, and like what they know.
Hype? What, TV commercials? Hype?
I used to play PStars. I bought household appliances playing at PStars. I never had to argue with them over a payout, or ask twice about something, and they never froze me at their whim. I'll play there again some day. I won't obsess about other people making "ridiculous" decisions. But I hope you don't invite people over to your house for dinner and say, "Ewwwww, I don't like the clothes you're wearing." It's beyond pointless, it is rude. And in case you were thinking, "I wasn't rude"...
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I suppose if you're one of those weak shit players who play $5 sit and goes all day and make a dollar an hour stars might be a good site
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So it can't be a good site unless I'm a weak shit player? Ummm, OK
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I'm a know-it-all.
No, really.
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evman150
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I'll take Party, Prima, Absolute, Paradise, Poker Room and just about any other major site over Stars.
I don't see ANY reason why a noob should join Poker Stars. I don't see any reason why ANYBODY would play there. It's all hype. And you haven't convinced me otherwise. |
I am a moron who plays on Poker Stars and I lose hundreds of dollars a week. |
Oh. Well then.
(I can misquote you too, asshole.)
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LeFou
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evman i don't see the purpose of anything you're saying, and definitely I don't see the purpose of calling out my boyo, eeeeee.
As for stars, it's a nice-looking table with colors and textures that are easy on the eyes (gamesgrid pretty good in that respect). When you join waiting lists and it says a seat is ready, a seat is really ready (wtf w/PP skins making a mess of that process? Is it just me?)
But to each his own. Unless one wants to pick dumb fights for no reason. In which case to each his fights.
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Full House
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You know, I probably came off sounding like a know-it-all. I'll try to be more considerate in the future. Sorry to piss on your parade Evman. I'll just be quiet and listen. 
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I'm a know-it-all.
No, really.
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JeffreyGB
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(I can misquote you too, asshole.)
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Not cool. The only thing he edited about your quote was to remove parts to which he wasn't responding. There's a world of difference between that and completely changing what's written. When you quote something from a book, do you include the entire book? No. You include the portion that's relevant to your subject. That's all he did.
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evman150
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(I can misquote you too, asshole.)
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Not cool. The only thing he edited about your quote was to remove parts to which he wasn't responding. There's a world of difference between that and completely changing what's written. When you quote something from a book, do you include the entire book? No. You include the portion that's relevant to your subject. That's all he did. |
That's not what he did. Look again.
I post on a lot of forums and misquoting posts is frowned upon greatly. It really undermines the integrity of the misquoting poster and really pisses off the person being misquoted.
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(I can misquote you too, asshole.)
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Not cool. The only thing he edited about your quote was to remove parts to which he wasn't responding. There's a world of difference between that and completely changing what's written. When you quote something from a book, do you include the entire book? No. You include the portion that's relevant to your subject. That's all he did. |
That's not what he did. Look again.
I post on a lot of forums and misquoting posts is frowned upon greatly. It really undermines the integrity of the misquoting poster and really pisses off the person being misquoted. |
No, it IS what he did. Look again.
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TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
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evman150
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(I can misquote you too, asshole.)
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Not cool. The only thing he edited about your quote was to remove parts to which he wasn't responding. There's a world of difference between that and completely changing what's written. When you quote something from a book, do you include the entire book? No. You include the portion that's relevant to your subject. That's all he did. |
That's not what he did. Look again.
I post on a lot of forums and misquoting posts is frowned upon greatly. It really undermines the integrity of the misquoting poster and really pisses off the person being misquoted. |
No, it IS what he did. Look again. |
You are wrong.
Obviously you have a tough time reading so I'll tell you explicitly.
There were no emoticons in my post, yet there was an emoticon in the quote below me. An inciting and baiting emoticon at that.
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Curtis-E
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Won over a G at stars today.........yeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
can I change my mind? IT's the best site in the whole wide world.
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TylerK
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(I can misquote you too, asshole.)
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Not cool. The only thing he edited about your quote was to remove parts to which he wasn't responding. There's a world of difference between that and completely changing what's written. When you quote something from a book, do you include the entire book? No. You include the portion that's relevant to your subject. That's all he did. |
That's not what he did. Look again.
I post on a lot of forums and misquoting posts is frowned upon greatly. It really undermines the integrity of the misquoting poster and really pisses off the person being misquoted. |
No, it IS what he did. Look again. |
You are wrong.
Obviously you have a tough time reading so I'll tell you explicitly.
There were no emoticons in my post, yet there was an emoticon in the quote below me. An inciting and baiting emoticon at that. |
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TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
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huh-wat
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Back on topic folks
I'm one of those guys that saw the EPT on eurosport and thus pokerstars sponsored players.
So in a rush i signed up at pokerstars.
The first week i played with play money and went from 1K to 200K.
So i tried it with real money, i started out with the minimum payment (50$).
After a couple of days playing at the fixed limit HE tables 0.02/0.04, i had 62$ on my bankroll. 3 sng's later with some unlucky beats, AAKKvs222 QQQKvsQQQA, my bankroll was down to <50$. Atm im trying to get back, on the NLHE tables, to 65$ and play some more sng's,
So yeah maybe the site is hyped and the competition can be tough. But if i can make some money here it should be easy on other sites. Furthermore i'm still learning about the game, so things can only get better.
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Full House
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The bonus cleared reasonably fast on the 100NL tables. Most players were weak tight and I made a nice profit clearing that bonus so I can't complain..
I will be back for any future bonuses.
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Legendash
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Full House
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I've found the 50NL much more weak passive than party, if i can just clear all my friggin bonuses at party skins i'll be back at stars.
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...and definitely I don't see the purpose of calling out my boyo, eeeeee.
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Whoops. Sorry I got yr name wrong.
Bonus whoring has taught me that there are all kinds of reasons to play a site. DifStrokes etc.
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