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langaan
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04-06-2008, 08:09 PM
Post subject: party reloads
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Straight
Join Date: Jan 2008
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I have to say im disappointed in party pokers reload bonuses.
its bad enough they dont have RB, but now i am finally considered "loyal" enough to receive reloads, and they are unclearable for me.
i eanred 1400 points in march, and there bonuses require me to earn 1200 in 7 days... wtf?
i remember getting an email from them stating that they dont do RB because they prefer bonuses tailored to suit and reward loyal players,
/sigh
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langaan
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Straight
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a little while back I had a few emails back and forth with party regarding bonuses and RB.
The jist of it was, Party felt that RB is just a marketing ploy and didnt "agree" with it. and rather, that they preferred to have a prgram that rewarded their Loyal players.
They told me several times that I would reep the benefits as I go from levels JJ to QQ to KK to AA in their program.
Then I get an email, wow, i get a reload bonus of 25% up to $100. I figured great, its not as good as RB at other sites but its a heck of alot better then nothing.
Then, i read the release restrictions.
In order for me to clear the full $100, i would need to earn 12x the bonus amount in poionts. = 1200 points.
now, in march, i earned 1400 points, eanrning me the QQ level, and earning me this wonderful reload bonus.
so, i email them again, and ask them why I am getting reload offers that could only be cleared by someone who is at the KK or AA level?
I ask, "how am i supposed to take advantage of this bonus if I would have to earn the same amount of points in 1 week as I did in all of march?"
they more or less responded over and over again that there are "better" bonuses at teh next level.
So I'm thinking, if this isnt a marketing ploy, what is?
To be the top level at party in their program, you need to earn approx 6000 points over a 3 month period. That is equal to 500 points per week.
lets get this straight,
if I earn enough points to be at level QQ, i will receive bonuses that requite me to earn 1200points/week to clear, yet if I eanr 500/week i will be at the top level of the program?
either that is one of those marketing ploy's that they supposedly dont agree with, or i need to go back to grade 4 math.
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jyms
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Tilting Mod
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Yea I am playing at party right now myself. I just got the same reload and I gotta tell you, I am very disappointed in the value of this reload. It's the first one in two months and it has a one week clearing requirement of BASE points. meaning Q or K levels don't matter because you can't use your multiplier points. it clears in full meaning you can't clear as much as you can, it's all or nothing.
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AHiltz
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Party bonuses blow. Plain and simple. Stars has better games anyways.
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langaan
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Straight
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Originally Posted by AHiltz
Party bonuses blow. Plain and simple. Stars has better games anyways.
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there as many soft games at stars?
I would think there has to be with the traffic there...
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langaan
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Straight
Join Date: Jan 2008
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my preference as to where to play is Party poker, poker stars or Full tilt.
My current strategy is based alot on data mining and finding the fishy tables, which pretty much eliminates stars.
party is great for soft games, but I've already played about 20k hands there and have earned enough points for a whopping $10 bonus, and as per above the reloads are ridiculous...
Full tilt however has data mining capabilities and rakeback, I just dont know if theres enough fishies to find over there?
i currently am down to 2 tabling 25NL, so I am guessing at that level I wont have a problem finding soft games at full tilt,
thoughts?
either way, as soft as it is a party, it's all too obvious I wont be able to receeive and type of bonus/RB there until I am multitabling 4 or more at 100NL, you know, cause they reward their loyal players.
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Taxi
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Straight
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Lincoln, UK
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Ongame FTW!
I've just gone onto Mansion, clearing their $500 8x bonus atm, works out at about 35% RB (thats for me, depends on style / game played since its contributed, most sites say its 30-50%). You have 90 days to clear (other skins are 30 or 60)
Ongame have 20+ skins, most of which have 8x bonuses (some are 10x)
plus also at TowerGaming once your a VIP, you can use your player points to buy the same $500 8x bonuses (don't have to reload or anything) so you have 35% RB all the time.
RB is also available at some skins (bonus deducted)
Oh and the players are awful (worse than party, I just moved from there, even tho I had unmentionable)
Wow that looks like one huge spam post lol.
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langaan
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Straight
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Originally Posted by Taxi
Ongame FTW!
I've just gone onto Mansion, clearing their $500 8x bonus atm, works out at about 35% RB (thats for me, depends on style / game played since its contributed, most sites say its 30-50%). You have 90 days to clear (other skins are 30 or 60)
Ongame have 20+ skins, most of which have 8x bonuses (some are 10x)
plus also at TowerGaming once your a VIP, you can use your player points to buy the same $500 8x bonuses (don't have to reload or anything) so you have 35% RB all the time.
RB is also available at some skins (bonus deducted)
Oh and the players are awful (worse than party, I just moved from there, even tho I had unmentionable)
Wow that looks like one huge spam post lol.
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there isnt alot of traffic there thought is there?
can you datamine there?
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Warpe
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04-07-2008, 05:48 PM
Post subject: Re: .
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Originally Posted by langaan
Full tilt however has data mining capabilities and rakeback, I just dont know if theres enough fishies to find over there?
i currently am down to 2 tabling 25NL, so I am guessing at that level I wont have a problem finding soft games at full tilt,
thoughts?
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there are plenty of fish in the FTP sea at your stakes.
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langaan
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Straight
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Originally Posted by langaan
Full tilt however has data mining capabilities and rakeback, I just dont know if theres enough fishies to find over there?
i currently am down to 2 tabling 25NL, so I am guessing at that level I wont have a problem finding soft games at full tilt,
thoughts?
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there are plenty of fish in the FTP sea at your stakes.
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thanks!! just made my decision easy.
think ill play out arpil at party and make a move to FT May 1.
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Miffed22001
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Marry Me Cheryl!!!
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FTP and stars games are nothing in comparison to party and especially ongame.
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langaan
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Straight
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Originally Posted by Miffed22001
FTP and stars games are nothing in comparison to party and especially ongame.
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i assume you mean ongame is the softest of softies?
can u datamine at ongame?
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silu73
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Full House
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I think that if it comes to game softness Ongame is surely the toughest and hardest network to play on. Too many regulars with big stacks and loads of 3-betting/shoving shit going on. Its also rigged and the software doesn't use much computer resources and is smooth all around. Stay away from it OK 
In all seriousness though. Idleminer has a programme for datamining Ongame but I have never tried it as I use my HUD less and less.
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langaan
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Straight
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Originally Posted by silu73
I think that if it comes to game softness Ongame is surely the toughest and hardest network to play on. Too many regulars with big stacks and loads of 3-betting/shoving shit going on. Its also rigged and the software doesn't use much computer resources and is smooth all around. Stay away from it OK
In all seriousness though. Idleminer has a programme for datamining Ongame but I have never tried it as I use my HUD less and less.
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recommend any specific skin?
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Taxi
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Straight
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Lincoln, UK
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Originally Posted by langaan
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Originally Posted by silu73
I think that if it comes to game softness Ongame is surely the toughest and hardest network to play on. Too many regulars with big stacks and loads of 3-betting/shoving shit going on. Its also rigged and the software doesn't use much computer resources and is smooth all around. Stay away from it OK
In all seriousness though. Idleminer has a programme for datamining Ongame but I have never tried it as I use my HUD less and less.
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Bonus whore them all, don't forget RB if its available.
I went for Mansion first cus its released incrementally, so if I didn't like Ongame for whatever reason (software I was worried about) I could take whatever Bonus I had earned and leave.
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langaan
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Straight
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Originally Posted by Taxi
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Originally Posted by langaan
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Originally Posted by silu73
I think that if it comes to game softness Ongame is surely the toughest and hardest network to play on. Too many regulars with big stacks and loads of 3-betting/shoving shit going on. Its also rigged and the software doesn't use much computer resources and is smooth all around. Stay away from it OK
In all seriousness though. Idleminer has a programme for datamining Ongame but I have never tried it as I use my HUD less and less.
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recommend any specific skin?
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Bonus whore them all, don't forget RB if its available.
I went for Mansion first cus its released incrementally, so if I didn't like Ongame for whatever reason (software I was worried about) I could take whatever Bonus I had earned and leave.
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ok so im thinking of either going to poker room or mansion poker..
does mansions $500 bonus clear reasonably well, say compared to full tilts?
ive never seen any offers for RB for ongame, are there any?
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Taxi
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Straight
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Lincoln, UK
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Haven't done FT's bonus, but looking at the MGR in PT, I've paid $563 in rake, and earned $198 in bonus, so about 35% RB, so you can estimate looking at your PT.
This is for 5-max btw. (Points are only earned if you contribute so I assume if your playin FR then the clearance rate would be a bit lower)
Edit: RB isn't allowed officially I don't think but google it or bump the threads on 2+2 and you'll get some offers, ppl on here might be able to help but I don't kno who.
Double edit: RB isn't allowed on ongame at all so you'll have to tread carefully I think.
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