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Old 10-13-2005, 08:10 AM     Post subject: Party Poker RakeBack are Rumors #1 (permalink)  
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I know this because i e-mailed them about it since I’m an affiliate @ party poker... This just about kills anything you all might have been hoping for or wondering about...

Hi,

PartyPoker.com does not permit affiliates to promote rakeback (or any other discount schemes) to players. There are rumors that we are offering / endorsing rake back to affiliates. These are false claims and we are taking action against anyone who claims to have "special deals" with us.

If you are in touch with 'high-volume' players seeking incentives, you may let them know that there are multiple special offers for players running on the site right now. Please request your players to log in to their PartyPoker.com accounts and see what offer(s) are available to them. (If they have not received anything yet, they may write to bonuses@partypoker.com).

We now have a team that services the needs of high volume players. Please let us know if you are in touch with any such players and I will be happy to introduce them to this team.

We would love to work with you to get new players and increased revenues on PartyPoker.com.

If you have further questions and/or concerns, we will be glad to assist you further.

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Old 10-13-2005, 04:14 PM #2 (permalink)  
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The case is not closed yet. But you have to know where to look and who to talk to. You arent going to find anyone advertising Party Rakeback, because Party shuts down anyone who advertises rakeback. but.... well... individual trackers were re-added a week ago allowing trackers to be attached to individual players. And the affiliate program still offers the same MGR% option as can see on the Party affiliate website... and... if you know what im talking about you can put two and two together... ill leave it at that...
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Old 10-13-2005, 04:34 PM #3 (permalink)  
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This message posted on twoplustwo.com sums the situations up nicely:

"I'm not sure what can and cannot be said in this forum. It is called affiliates/rakeback but people get banned and posts get deleted for discussing the above constantly...

I will say this...I know of a very reliable source that is offering 26% to high volume players currently, Party is not endorsing rakeback...but they are still paying their affiliates a % of gross MGR. There is really no way for them to stop affiliates from passing some or all of this % back to players. If it is made very public and done on a massive scale, it will likely be quashed.

Anybody may PM me for any more information they desire. "
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Old 10-13-2005, 04:56 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 Dear xxxx,

This is to inform you that your account has now been closed. It means that you will not be able to login, make deposits or be able to play on PartyPoker.com.

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Old 10-13-2005, 05:04 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Old 10-13-2005, 05:10 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Dear xxxx,

This is to inform you that your account has now been closed. It means that you will not be able to login, make deposits or be able to play on PartyPoker.com.

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let me know how that works aces. i was thinking about trying the same thing
 
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Old 10-13-2005, 07:11 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Dear xxxx,

This is to inform you that your account has now been closed. It means that you will not be able to login, make deposits or be able to play on PartyPoker.com.

Sonali
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Yea some I’m dealing with fucking with making a new neteller account because party was to fucking stubborn to switch my current one over...

And pertaining to someone’s comment about who to talk to I think I know that I’m a damn affiliate! No affiliate should be openly advertising any sort of discount deals or say good bye to your affiliate program...

I’m only telling you that rake back at party poker isn’t legit to advertise and it sounds like it is against there will for an affiliate to give out…
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Old 10-13-2005, 09:13 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Dear xxxx,

This is to inform you that your account has now been closed. It means that you will not be able to login, make deposits or be able to play on PartyPoker.com.

Sonali
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Rake Back here I come
Yea some I’m dealing with fucking with making a new neteller account because party was to fucking stubborn to switch my current one over...

And pertaining to someone’s comment about who to talk to I think I know that I’m a damn affiliate! No affiliate should be openly advertising any sort of discount deals or say good bye to your affiliate program...

I’m only telling you that rake back at party poker isn’t legit to advertise and it sounds like it is against there will for an affiliate to give out…
Key words: "openly advertising"

This implies "private advertising" is allowed still..
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Um I'm getting 25% rakeback there in a few days.
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Old 10-13-2005, 10:06 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Dear xxxx,

This is to inform you that your account has now been closed. It means that you will not be able to login, make deposits or be able to play on PartyPoker.com.

Sonali
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Rake Back here I come
Yea some I’m dealing with fucking with making a new neteller account because party was to fucking stubborn to switch my current one over...

And pertaining to someone’s comment about who to talk to I think I know that I’m a damn affiliate! No affiliate should be openly advertising any sort of discount deals or say good bye to your affiliate program...

I’m only telling you that rake back at party poker isn’t legit to advertise and it sounds like it is against there will for an affiliate to give out…
Key words: "openly advertising"

This implies "private advertising" is allowed still..
i suggest you reread the e-mail...
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Old 10-13-2005, 10:06 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Um I'm getting 25% rakeback there in a few days.
and when they get shut down? what will you do?

Look it was real damn simple why I posted the e-mail to get information out, instead I have gotten people being argent basically saying "openly advertising isn't allowed but going behind party pokers back is cool..." That's stupid now if party wont agree to you advertising it up from then you really think they wouldn't be pissed, if they found someone advertising RB behind there back?

I have offered to refer people to the affiliates program which is the only thing party said i could do... however referring player there monthly revenue is up to that player where 20% goes to MGR under 10k and 25% to MGR over 10k...

I have gotten the info out do what you want with it... I just didn’t want to see any FTR members get screwed but it sounds like I shouldn’t bother…

I have gotten the info out do what you want with it...
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Here's my speculation.

-- Months ago, Party made a software patch to block MGR tracking of players, effectively eliminating rakeback.

-- Last week, Party updates software, making sweeping changes -- I think the old patch didn't make it on the new release.

-- Within a couple weeks, when most of the kinks are ironed out, and big money players are re-signed, Party re-blocks MGR tracking, lays off a few affiliates (saving themselves a few bucks), and all those sweet smelling rakeback promises will go down the crapper.
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Old 10-14-2005, 04:49 AM #13 (permalink)  
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I think it's pretty naive to think that Party won't put something in place for the existing RB affiliates with huge volumes under their programs. These guys could easily inform their existing members without really advertising RB. RB is a pretty big incentive, even if the games are softest at PP. At the very least, PP would offer their own version of RB.

New signups might be sparse.

If you are an affiliate with a trifling number of signups at the skins, you are probably screwed.
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Old 10-14-2005, 08:37 AM #14 (permalink)  
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{spam} {edit by PokerFanatic}

Note: please don't spam your affiliate programs you know bettor!!!
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Old 10-14-2005, 10:48 AM #15 (permalink)  
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Why would I want rakeback now before the dust settles and risk having my account closed at the site with the fishiest game available online?
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Old 10-14-2005, 05:27 PM #16 (permalink)  
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Why would I want rakeback now before the dust settles and risk having my account closed at the site with the fishiest game available online?
Your account will not be closed if they catch you getting rakeback. Only the affiliate's account will be closed and you won't recieve any more rakeback
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Old 10-14-2005, 08:34 PM #17 (permalink)  
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Why would I want rakeback now before the dust settles and risk having my account closed at the site with the fishiest game available online?
Your account will not be closed if they catch you getting rakeback. Only the affiliate's account will be closed and you won't recieve any more rakeback
True....

But I'm not jumping on the first train that pulls up to the station without knowing where it's going. I'll wait for things to settle down, and then see if a stable, legitimate rakeback source is available.

I try to stay on the UP-AND-UP with good sites like Party. Party may very well be the best site out there in a couple of months.

Any affiliate telling you to close your account/resign/or get a second Neteller account sounds pretty shady for a "legitmate" deal, don't you think?

If 'eeeee' is right and Party later fixes/blocks the Individual-Player-MGR tool to affiliates, rakeback might be gone in a poof.

Playing without rakeback for a couple more weeks isn't going to hurt me. If Party knowingly lets the MGR tool in place, then they're effectively permitting (or at least turning a blind eye to) rakebacks. Then I will sign up with a reputable affiliate.

But I don't see myself doing anything in the current frenzy of rumor, speculation and here-say. Especially in light of the VERY CLEAR emails being sent to Affiliates disallowing rakeback (like the one posted by pokerfanatic).

The dust WILL settle. And then it will be obvious where Party now stands on rakeback. I'm HOPING they've changed their hard-nosed position of NO rakeback. But assuming they've changed their minds at this point is a little rash, don't you think?

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Old 10-25-2005, 04:16 AM #18 (permalink)  
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At this point Party trully is the better of the skins now in terms of loose play.Their mainstream marketing and whatnot allows them to atract more fishy players then Empire,Euro,Multi,Intertops,and Pokernow combined.As soon as I finish SHAW I am headed back to Party or some other platform lol.
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Note: please don't spam your affiliate programs you know bettor!!!
i dont have an affiliate program and as a mod I know a bit better.
So next time PM me or talk to me first

If anyone needs shit about PP PM me.
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Old 10-25-2005, 09:33 AM #20 (permalink)  
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I agree with waiting a little bit for the dust to settle...

I mean come on, just play somewhere else for a while - you have:

Eurobet $200 + rakeback
Pokerstars Reload
Bodog Unlimited Bonus
and others...

why risk getting your account banned or at the least creating hostile relations with one of the better, fishier, reload-plentiful cardrooms?
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