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tonejac

04-22-2005, 06:56 PM Post subject: Online Poker Rooms Being "juiced" - Ridiculous...

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I can't believe all the people that say that the online poker rooms (PartyPoker.com, EmpirePoker.com, UltimateBet.com etc...) are rigged, juiced, or manipulated.

For all you who hold to this opinion need to own up to the fact that you're not playing good poker, or you are just having a bad run of cards. Simple and true.

THink about it. If you owned and were running an online poker room why would you do anything to jeopardize the solidity and reputation of your software/business. It's ridiculous.

So kick yourself in the ass and own up to your skills or lack-there-of and also face the fact that we can't win every single game we buy into.

Tony J.

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Curtis-E

04-22-2005, 09:46 PM

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Straight

Join Date: Apr 2005

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I don't know dude, I had my AA cracked by 8 3 and 27 yesterday. There must be a conspiracy, I just know it.

tonejac

04-22-2005, 10:16 PM

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FYI...

Here's the odds for a table of 10 people where everyone stays in and not folding:

If you have:

- AA > 31.00% chance of winning the hand
- KK > 26.02% chance of winning the hand
- QQ > 22.03% chance of winning the hand
- AKs > 20.19 % chance of winning the hand
- JJ > 19.09% chance of winning the hand
- AQs > 18.66% chance of winning the hand
- KQs > 18.08% chance of winning the hand
- AJs > 17.47% chance of winning the hand
- KJs > 17.05% chance of winning the hand
- TT > 16.83% chance of winning the hand

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- 83 > 4.33% chance of winning the hand
- 82 > 4.20% chance of winning the hand
- 72 > 4.04% chance of winning the hand

All that to say that the odds of losing with AA aren't too far-fetched.

"You gotta know when to hold'em, Know when to fold-em...." -- Kenny Rodgers.

Tony J.

Legendash

04-22-2005, 11:39 PM

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Full House

Join Date: May 2004

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31% Argh it's such a miserable percentage, life is rigged, my Aces cannot be cracked, CANNOT!!!

Funny how AJ and KJ have almost the same odds but most people like AJ and slate KJ, same for AQ/KQ

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Curtis-E

04-23-2005, 04:39 AM

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Straight

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Yeah, you don't have to tell me. I have lost thousands of dollars with aces.
Luckily, I probably have won 3 times that when I have the rockets..
hahahha
Aces baby.

As far as sites being rigged, I am just damn tired of hearing about it.
Worry about some chumps colluding your ass before worrying about a multi million dollar corporate conglomerate who is going to get theirs no matter what.

a500lbgorilla

04-26-2005, 07:21 PM

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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD

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Everyone who voted yes should feel free to show us some proof.

-'rilla

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You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.

DaNutsInYoEye

04-27-2005, 01:52 AM

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Quote:

Here's the odds for a table of 10 people where everyone stays in and not folding:

If you have:

- AA > 31.00% chance of winning the hand

Couldn't have come up with a worse example to support your arguement. How often does the entire table stay in a hand until the river?

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tonejac

04-27-2005, 07:53 PM Post subject: true...

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaNutsInYoEye

Quote:

Here's the odds for a table of 10 people where everyone stays in and not folding:

If you have:

- AA > 31.00% chance of winning the hand

Couldn't have come up with a worse example to support your arguement. How often does the entire table stay in a hand until the river?

True, not practical. Just meant to make the point that just cuz you lose to 2/7 with your pocket rockets doesn't mean the deck is "juiced".

Tony J.

"If you drop your keys into molten lava just let'em go man, 'cuz they're gone." -- Jack Handey

whileone

04-27-2005, 08:09 PM

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Flush

Join Date: Nov 2004

Posts: 306

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaNutsInYoEye

Quote:

Here's the odds for a table of 10 people where everyone stays in and not folding:

If you have:

- AA > 31.00% chance of winning the hand

Couldn't have come up with a worse example to support your arguement. How often does the entire table stay in a hand until the river?

how about this?
Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Ac 1519445 88.74 184642 10.78 8217 0.48 0.890
7s 2c 184642 10.78 1519445 88.74 8217 0.48 0.110

the Very Best hand against the Very Worst hand is only a 9:1 favorite.

how would you feel about russian roulette with 10 chambers and 1 bullet? still feel invincible?

Noooooooooooooooo!!
--Darth Vader

Laeelin

04-28-2005, 01:15 AM

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Full House

Join Date: Jan 2005

Posts: 1,137

Quote:

how would you feel about russian roulette with 10 chambers and 1 bullet? still feel invincible?

Not pulling any punches are you?

Q. Is poker Gambling?
A. Do you use correct bankroll management?

tjp

05-29-2005, 07:45 PM

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Join Date: Apr 2005

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Party made 350 million last year and are projected for 550 million this year. Why would you mess with that golden goose?

Xianti

05-29-2005, 07:47 PM

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LeFou

05-29-2005, 07:52 PM

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4-of-a-Kind

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Location: Dallas, TX

Posts: 2,361

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjp

Party made 350 million last year and are projected for 550 million this year. Why would you mess with that golden goose?

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