Originally Posted by philly and the phanatics

in b4 Lock poker goes down while he is "in vegas " rofl

Originally Posted by philly and the phanatics

idk but to be honest, the more i play there the more i like Locks software, it shits on absolutes, and is easily on par with FTP

Originally Posted by wallethead

I am considering depositing to your site. I have two BIG questions first.

1. How is your deposit/withdrawl system different from the (former) big three; pokerstars, fulltilt, and UB? In other words, how do I as an american player know that the same thing won't happen to you (and my bankroll) that happened to the big three (and recently Doyle's Room as well as several others)? I don't want some lame explanation about the UIGA not applying to poker, we all know that...apparently that don't matter to the DOJ. Tell me the actual difference between how YOU process deposits/withdrawls and how the big three did it.

Thanks for answering question #2 at least. How about at least giving question #1 an honest answer...and "we can not guarantee anything..." doesn't answer my question, which I will reiterate:
Tell me the actual difference between how YOU process deposits/withdrawls and how the big three did it.
If there is no actual difference, that's fine, tell me that. And then I can make an informed decision based upon that. What do you mean by having put "the appropriate steps in place to ensure we stay online for our players"? That strikes me as purposefully vague (essentially meaningless) and believe me I've had about enough of that from full tilt as I wait for my money, and wait....

If you are liable to have the same indictments as full tilt, stars, and UB, because you all process transactions in basically similar ways, as a potential customer I have every right to ask about that, and receive an honest and complete answer.

I won't deposit with you most likely, in that case, but I will certainly respect your company for your honesty, and would strongly consider playing there in a more poker-friendly future environment.

Many thanks,

xxxxxxx xxxxx

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so...I'll guess we'll wait and see. I have a feeling there is no real difference and a lock poker shutdown is an eventual inevitability. I hope I'm wrong, but I sure won't be putting any money there in the meantime. Unless I get REAL answers that address the actual issues involved. No more shadowy, vague near-assurances about "steps put on place" --blah on that. I wasn't asking for guarantees, merely to be intelligently informed of the differences (if any) between Lock and the BIG (indicted) THREE. That's what none of these sites have come forth with on their own, and what every American player should be asking them.

Originally Posted by Rizen

In regards to the big 3, if you read the indictments (I know it's not exactly exciting reading) most of the charges come around their eCheck solutions and the methods they used to put money directly from your poker account into your bank account (the bank fraud charges etc) instead of using third party eWallets or other intermediaries. Lock and Merge have never offered eCheck solutions.

If you look at the indictments for Doyle's Room (again, exciting reading) they were using a check payment processor located in Maryland that was set up specifically to catch online gambling sites trying to process payments in the US. I've been playing on Lock for over two years now and every time I've gotten a check the payment processor was from a bank in Canada and was usually a cashier's check with a name and number for you bank to call if they had any questions.

So, that answers what we do differently than the indicted sites. Now, that doesn't guarantee that the DoJ won't do the same thing to us, I have no idea what they will or won't do. I know we've taken some precautions (moving over to a .eu domain among others I can't really talk about).

That is as much detail as I can go into. If you have any additional questions I will do my best to answer them.

-Rizen

Originally Posted by dneureiter

Requested moneybookers cashout 2 weeks ago, got confirmation 24-72 hours for $$, never got money. Solid.

Originally Posted by BountyJoker

so is this convo stating LOCK sucks with cashouts?

Originally Posted by lolzzz_321

Big thanks to Rizen for posting on FTR and not that just that other forum . I expect nothing less from a man who knows about Olathe, KS and Persimmon Hill.

Originally Posted by Pkrot

Thanks Rizen for the great support. Got my withdrawal quickly.

Originally Posted by Outlaw

Lock no longer open to US customers eh? Any that are?

Originally Posted by Rizen

If you send me your username/e-mail info at rizen@lockpoker.com I'll make sure someone looks at this.

Thanks

-Rizen

Originally Posted by dneureiter

Appreciate this, I requested a fresh cashout, waited a week, emailed support, waited another week (a full month now) and have not been responded too. I sent you a mail.

Originally Posted by jyms

Boog? what stakes and how many hands for the iPad? I know your not playing baller stakes so it must be a reasonable amount of hands at the SSNL's

Originally Posted by jyms

yea, i figured it was. I like to punish myself over things I miss out on. I think there still may be an iPad promo or two on RTR still. So I was just wondering about the time before I look into it in case I can get in under a deadline and have time.

Originally Posted by jyms

I like to punish myself over things I miss out on.