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sinky
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01-07-2010, 01:54 PM
Post subject: iPoker rake changes
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Flush
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: SCOTLAND
Posts: 295
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Looks like all the iPoker sites are changing from dealt to contributed rake. Another few thousand customers for Pokerstars then.
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jyms
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Tilting Mod
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Good, because it will mostly be short stacking RB pros that it costs the most. Anyone worth their salt on iPoker still has a RB deal and plays looser than 16/12. I play there and according to the iPoker thread on 2p2, it won't affect most regs. Just the multitabling nit/bot players. I still have a RB deal for now and am getting almost 60% with bonus's RB and Rake races. I believe it will help the site, giving more casual players the sense of a better site, not having the same 15 guys playing on 16 tables with 20BB, push folding 10/8 for dealt hands.
Before anyone asks there are no new RB deals, they needed to be grandfathered in from previous accounts on other networks or befor iPoker buckled down.
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sinky
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Flush
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: SCOTLAND
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For me as a limit player, the immediate problem is now a lack of tables. For example, last night (UK time) there were only 2 full ring 1/2 tables. Usually more than 10.
My VPIP for full ring is about 18%. When you consider the blinds I will be contributing to the pot about 34% of the time. On Chilipoker I currently get about 1.4 FPP per hand. Looking at the new FPP structure I think I will get at best 1 FPP per hand (34% * ~3 FPP).
For this change to be neutral for me I would need to contribute to 47% of pots (including blinds).
Looking at it another way for a full ring 1/2 game, chilipoker "pays out" on average 14 FPP (1.4 * 10) per raked hand. For this change to be neutral they have to give the new 3 FPP to 4.6 players. From my experience on iPoker most hands are blind battles or 2 or 3 to the flop. So unless things loosen up significantly they are paying out less.
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StraightShooter
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High Card
Join Date: Jan 2010
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This had to happen. There were far too many nits on iPoker just grinding it out - killed the action.
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KoRnholio
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,166
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by sinky
For me as a limit player, the immediate problem is now a lack of tables. For example, last night (UK time) there were only 2 full ring 1/2 tables. Usually more than 10.
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QFT  Though I think I prefer 1-2 non-rock infested tables to the previous choice of 8+ tables with 8-13% seeing the flop.
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