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Old 10-02-2006, 01:05 AM     Post subject: Gambling sites banning US players #1 (permalink)  
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I've been away since Thursday, so I'm getting caught up on the US gambling legistation shockwaves...

I read on BW that 888 will be banning US players tomorrow (which makes me wonder what'll happen to my Happy Hours bonus that I got yesterday when I deposited. They'll probably just take it back, but anyway...).

I read here that InterCasino/Poker won't be giving bonuses to US players now, which sucks. I checked out Cherry Casino and Casino Euro to see if their 30 bonus with 100 deposit was still available and it doesn't look like it is (it's no longer listed on the promotions page, anyway...). I didn't bother trying a deposit for it but figured I'd ask if any US casino whores tried these places out this month?

Any other confirmed places (poker or casino) who have/will be banning US players?
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Old 10-02-2006, 03:16 AM #2 (permalink)  
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WSEX has confirmed that it will NOT be banning US players.

a london paper said that party is expected to follow the 888 path, although this is not yet confirmed with an official statement.

stars, ub, absolute, have more or less said we dunno, but either way you've got time.
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Old 10-02-2006, 02:09 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Nice.
Bush is expected to sign withing next few day, if not today.
From what I can tell, the main thing will be a halt on 'deposits' with US funds, with many online players voicing a concern about how the fish will be able to reload...
Personally I'm expecting it to be much worse than that- Neteller's even worried!
I feel sick.

BTW, does anyone even know someone fitting the profile that CNN chose to use as the example of a (bad) online gambler: 'A portrait of an online gambler'
http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/interne...ile/index.html
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Old 10-02-2006, 04:59 PM #4 (permalink)  
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lol "Online casinos cost Tim Smith $20,000."

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Tim fucking Smith cost Tim Smith $20 fucking ,000!

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Old 10-02-2006, 08:53 PM #5 (permalink)  
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... because he couldn't have just gone to Vegas and lost all that anyway.

It's hilarious that this guy spent $2000 on Kinko's fees just to get on the Internet to access gambling websites, AFTER he gave away his computer just so he wouldn't gamble. Talk about pathological.

Something was going to get this guy, if it wasn't gambling. Better him losing $20,000 than getting drunk and hitting someone with his car, I suppose.
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Old 10-03-2006, 04:29 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Is Party reallg going to give up on us this soon?
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Old 10-03-2006, 06:51 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Is Party reallg going to give up on us this soon?
Seems that way. I cashed out my PP account tonight. I had actually been making weekly withdrawls and skipping my biweekly deposits for points in preparation for this, because it was obvious the port security bill was going to go through. (I think PP stopped giving point bonuses for deposits, anyway.)

I also burned all my frequent player points buying ipod nanos for a bunch of my friends, just in case they shut us out from that. I doubt they would, but you never know... just a contingency measure.
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Old 10-03-2006, 04:06 PM     Post subject: betfred gone #8 (permalink)  
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Dear Nathaniel,

The account information that you have registered with Betfred lists you as residing in the United States of America.

Please be advised that, following the recent legislation, Betfred has regretfully had to take the decision not to accept any business through our website or call centre from any US citizen.

All Betfred accounts which we believe originate in the USA will be closed with immediate effect.

If you currently have funds with Betfred, we would be grateful if you would contact our Accounts department (accounts@betfred.com) to arrange for the balance to be repaid. Should you have any questions you can also contact our customer service team on 1-800 780 9364.

On behalf of Betfred, we would like to apologise for this inconvenience and thank you for your previous custom.

Kind regards

The Betfred Customer Service Team.
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Old 10-03-2006, 05:17 PM #9 (permalink)  
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I read the Tim Smith article and thought I'd try and express a rather different view:

The habit started innocently enough, agreeing to join his friend Chris’s table at popular online gambling site Poker Room. Mark deposited $50 into the site via a credit card, which he always paid off in full every month, and sat down to play with half a dozen friends. He lost, but only $4, and quickly realised that he’d found something he could really come to enjoy.

Over the next few days, Mark pestered his friends to play more games with him at Poker Room. The wins and losses both came, one day costing him $37 – his girlfriend wasn’t too impressed with this new hobby, especially as she herself was in a lot of debt through 8 years of student loans.

Mark describes his situation, which couldn't be more normal. “I wasn't loaded but also wasn’t on the breadline, and could afford to spend a few bucks to get started in poker. Chris called it a ‘learning tax’, the thinking being that once I got good enough, through practice and education, I would stop being a net loser and start consistently making money. Made sense to me!”

Chris also introduced Mark to the Sit ‘n’ Go, a kind of Texas hold’em tournament – games where everyone pays a set buy-in fee and then plays until one person has won all the chips. He advised that these games were a good place to start, as the outlay was only $5.50 a go, which could provide up to an hour’s playing time for a small, fixed price. The top three places paid – first prize being a healthy $25 – and after a while, Mark started finishing “in the money” enough to take his account from a few bucks down back into the black.

Mark continued playing these $5.50 SNGs for a couple of months, until a more seductive challenge piqued his interest. The pluses of the SNG format – the opportunity to practice with low risk – seemed less thrilling than the charms of “ring” poker, where large sums could be won – or lost – on the turn of a single card. In fact, Mark was returning to the format he’d first experienced in online poker – and a $14 win within 5 minutes of sitting down convinced him he was in the right place!!

Meanwhile, Mark’s poker buddy Matt had come across William Hill’s poker site – it seemed as easy as Poker Room, but it offered pound tables as well as dollars. Thanks to the exchange rate, Mark and Matt were able to almost double their earnings overnight!

Unfortunately, after quickly winning £130, Mark’s inexperience told, and he lost all but £7 of his newfound riches. Annoyed and disillusioned, but still keen to play, he redoubled his effort to learn the game. He re-read the simple tutorials provided by Poker Room and William Hill, and also sought out a different source of advice – a dedicated poker forum on the internet called Flop Turn River.

On FTR, Mark encountered players across the whole poker spectrum, from micro stakes to big bucks, from ring games to 2,000-man million-dollar tournaments. The members contributed their personal expertise, discussing hand they’d played, debating theories and tactics and discussing which sites had the most to offer. As well as benefitting from lots of advice – not all of it good! – Mark realised that he could earn a lot more taking advantage of various bonuses (free cash provided by the sites as an incentive to play at them) and rakeback (a system by which the poker sites return some of the money they “rake” off each hand, which provides their income). So he set up a new account at Interpoker, complete with $100 a month bonuses and 30% rakeback, and started playing again, but with much more knowledge and confidence.

By the end of the year Mark was astonished to realise he’d made over a thousand pounds playing online poker! Along the way he’d bought himself a piece of software that tracks every hand he plays (along with those of his opponents) and it had proved a hugely useful tool for analysing his play – he’d been able to identify and work on leaks in his game when studying the statistics it provided.

Vitally, Poker Tracker also proved to him that after more than 50,000 hands he was a winning player. Poker is a long term game and because of the effects probability has on individual hands – even a 90% favourite loses 10% of the time – jumping to conclusions based on short term results is at best misguided and at worst dangerous. FTR had made Mark aware that only after compiling a large enough sample could he be sure that he wasn’t just getting “lucky”.

As 2006 arrived, Mark continued to play online poker most nights. There had been a certain amount of friction between Mark and his girlfriend, but Mark was able to solve the problem by spending some of his poker winnings on a laptop so that he could play while sitting next to her on the sofa. “I also managed to console her with a new computer for her thesis – as well as a ticket to the States to visit her mum – all paid for out of my winnings!” he laughs.

It’s now October 2006, and Mark is still reading FTR, still striving to improve his game, and still playing whenever he can - it’s a game with many fun varieties so there’s no reason to get bored. He’s even started playing real life games – live poker these days is far from being a seedy underground activity, as it was once perceived. More than anything, Mark’s thrilled to have a hobby that taxes his brain AND fills his wallet.

“Thanks to the internet, and the growth of reliable, accountable online businesses which provide everything I need, I’ve discovered a fantastic pastime that I’d never thought of trying before”, he says, logging onto Sun Poker, his latest site, and loading up four tables of 6max no-limit hold’em. “I always tell my friends they should give it a try – I’m worried I’m becoming a bit of a bore! But when I mention how much I’ve won just through playing low-stakes games with responsible bankroll management,” (that is, never playing stakes that risk more than a tiny fraction of the money you’re willing to spend on poker) “ I know they start wondering if poker’s right for them too!”
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Old 10-03-2006, 05:40 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Great job Mark. Hey nice article by CNN. No slant there. Talking about online casinos and showing a poker site. Nothing new for them. Remember this next time they have a story about steroids, ephedra or how some herbal remedy is a ripoff and the pharmeceutical drugs are the only "cure" you take for the rest of your shortened, side efected life.
 
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Old 10-06-2006, 04:26 AM #11 (permalink)  
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yeh, but what about lycopene?
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Old 10-06-2006, 06:10 AM #12 (permalink)  
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I read the Tim Smith article and thought I'd try and express a rather different view:

The habit started innocently enough, agreeing to join his friend Chris’s table at popular online gambling site Poker Room. Mark deposited $50 into the site via a credit card, which he always paid off in full every month, and sat down to play with half a dozen friends. He lost, but only $4, and quickly realised that he’d found something he could really come to enjoy.

Over the next few days, Mark pestered his friends to play more games with him at Poker Room. The wins and losses both came, one day costing him $37 – his girlfriend wasn’t too impressed with this new hobby, especially as she herself was in a lot of debt through 8 years of student loans.

Mark describes his situation, which couldn't be more normal. “I wasn't loaded but also wasn’t on the breadline, and could afford to spend a few bucks to get started in poker. Chris called it a ‘learning tax’, the thinking being that once I got good enough, through practice and education, I would stop being a net loser and start consistently making money. Made sense to me!”

Chris also introduced Mark to the Sit ‘n’ Go, a kind of Texas hold’em tournament – games where everyone pays a set buy-in fee and then plays until one person has won all the chips. He advised that these games were a good place to start, as the outlay was only $5.50 a go, which could provide up to an hour’s playing time for a small, fixed price. The top three places paid – first prize being a healthy $25 – and after a while, Mark started finishing “in the money” enough to take his account from a few bucks down back into the black.

Mark continued playing these $5.50 SNGs for a couple of months, until a more seductive challenge piqued his interest. The pluses of the SNG format – the opportunity to practice with low risk – seemed less thrilling than the charms of “ring” poker, where large sums could be won – or lost – on the turn of a single card. In fact, Mark was returning to the format he’d first experienced in online poker – and a $14 win within 5 minutes of sitting down convinced him he was in the right place!!

Meanwhile, Mark’s poker buddy Matt had come across William Hill’s poker site – it seemed as easy as Poker Room, but it offered pound tables as well as dollars. Thanks to the exchange rate, Mark and Matt were able to almost double their earnings overnight!

Unfortunately, after quickly winning £130, Mark’s inexperience told, and he lost all but £7 of his newfound riches. Annoyed and disillusioned, but still keen to play, he redoubled his effort to learn the game. He re-read the simple tutorials provided by Poker Room and William Hill, and also sought out a different source of advice – a dedicated poker forum on the internet called Flop Turn River.

On FTR, Mark encountered players across the whole poker spectrum, from micro stakes to big bucks, from ring games to 2,000-man million-dollar tournaments. The members contributed their personal expertise, discussing hand they’d played, debating theories and tactics and discussing which sites had the most to offer. As well as benefitting from lots of advice – not all of it good! – Mark realised that he could earn a lot more taking advantage of various bonuses (free cash provided by the sites as an incentive to play at them) and rakeback (a system by which the poker sites return some of the money they “rake” off each hand, which provides their income). So he set up a new account at Interpoker, complete with $100 a month bonuses and 30% rakeback, and started playing again, but with much more knowledge and confidence.

By the end of the year Mark was astonished to realise he’d made over a thousand pounds playing online poker! Along the way he’d bought himself a piece of software that tracks every hand he plays (along with those of his opponents) and it had proved a hugely useful tool for analysing his play – he’d been able to identify and work on leaks in his game when studying the statistics it provided.

Vitally, Poker Tracker also proved to him that after more than 50,000 hands he was a winning player. Poker is a long term game and because of the effects probability has on individual hands – even a 90% favourite loses 10% of the time – jumping to conclusions based on short term results is at best misguided and at worst dangerous. FTR had made Mark aware that only after compiling a large enough sample could he be sure that he wasn’t just getting “lucky”.

As 2006 arrived, Mark continued to play online poker most nights. There had been a certain amount of friction between Mark and his girlfriend, but Mark was able to solve the problem by spending some of his poker winnings on a laptop so that he could play while sitting next to her on the sofa. “I also managed to console her with a new computer for her thesis – as well as a ticket to the States to visit her mum – all paid for out of my winnings!” he laughs.

It’s now October 2006, and Mark is still reading FTR, still striving to improve his game, and still playing whenever he can - it’s a game with many fun varieties so there’s no reason to get bored. He’s even started playing real life games – live poker these days is far from being a seedy underground activity, as it was once perceived. More than anything, Mark’s thrilled to have a hobby that taxes his brain AND fills his wallet.

“Thanks to the internet, and the growth of reliable, accountable online businesses which provide everything I need, I’ve discovered a fantastic pastime that I’d never thought of trying before”, he says, logging onto Sun Poker, his latest site, and loading up four tables of 6max no-limit hold’em. “I always tell my friends they should give it a try – I’m worried I’m becoming a bit of a bore! But when I mention how much I’ve won just through playing low-stakes games with responsible bankroll management,” (that is, never playing stakes that risk more than a tiny fraction of the money you’re willing to spend on poker) “ I know they start wondering if poker’s right for them too!”
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I dare say im called mark too and my poker history is not disimilar from this.
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