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Spook
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03-16-2005, 07:42 PM
Post subject: Features you want from an online poker room
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Flush
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 388
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What is on your wish list in the way of features from an online poker room? Or what changes would you want to make to your favorite place?
I would love to say that I am a multi-bilionaire and am feeling entrepenurial(sp) but the truth is I'm just doing some wishfull thinking here.
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The biggest thing for me is a decent filter to easily find only the games I want.
For example: a drop down or settings page for showing just ring vs 1 table vs 2 table vs MTT then another option for Limit Holdem vs NL Holdem vs Omaha etc. So you wouldnt accidentally be entering the wrong kind of game.
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Next would be a simple buddy page listing for who's on and who's not (prefferably with different groups)
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Fnord
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Lower rake.
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Lower rake.
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And popular MTTs.
-'rilla
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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elipsesjeff
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Join Date: Jul 2004
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resizable tables
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Les_Worm
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: May 2004
Location: MI
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MTT that have player caps. Like 6 different sizes. 50, 100, 250, 500, 1000, 2000.
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The artist formerly known as Knish
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Fnord
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1) FISH
2) Lower rake
3) MORE FISH
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mimmons775
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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i agree alot with elips, resizable tables would be very nice
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"I guess if there wasnt luck involved id win everyone."
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vqc
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jan 2005
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a "Don't Lose Money" button, and a "Win Money" button.
resizable tables.
an option where you can record your voice, and everytime you press a button all the other players will hear wat you recorded. This way when you get a bad beat they can hear you bitching, LIVE.
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Sed
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Full House
Join Date: Sep 2004
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Originally Posted by vqchuang
a "Don't Lose Money" button, and a "Win Money" button.
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well they have the first one... its the little X on the top right of the window.
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Iconoclastic
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Flush
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 324
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less buggy software
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What's the difference between a large cheese pizza and a poker player?
A large cheese pizza can feed a family of four.
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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A million dollar prize to the first person to prove their deals are rigged.
-'rilla
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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ilikeaces86
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Nov 2004
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No rake and lots of fish.
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SinkRox
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Full House
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Brighton, UK
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long slow blind structures (S&Gs)
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Jason Moffatt
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
A million dollar prize to the first person to prove their deals are rigged.
-'rilla
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Hell, make it 50 million and let those losers racked their brains for eternity trying to solve conspiracies.
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Gatlin Dan
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Flush
Join Date: Nov 2004
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I want instantaneous cashouts and generous bonuses. I like Fnord's lower rake suggestion as well.
How about a feature where you can mark players as fish and you will be automatically put on the waiting list for the top two tables that have the most players you have labelled as fish when you log in.
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Spook
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Flush
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Originally Posted by Gatlin Dan
How about a feature where you can mark players as fish and you will be automatically put on the waiting list for the top two tables that have the most players you have labelled as fish when you log in.
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Nice concept in the abstract, but in practice this would quickly scare away all the fish... then why bother playing poker at all?
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Gatlin Dan
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Flush
Join Date: Nov 2004
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Originally Posted by Spook
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Originally Posted by Gatlin Dan
How about a feature where you can mark players as fish and you will be automatically put on the waiting list for the top two tables that have the most players you have labelled as fish when you log in.
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Nice concept in the abstract, but in practice this would quickly scare away all the fish... then why bother playing poker at all? |
I'm sure you're right. It seemed like a good idea at the time I wrote it. Then again if the fish don't know they aren't supossed to chase gut shots in small pots, they might not know they are being targeted with a software feature like this either. Who knows.
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storm75m
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Flush
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: 6MAX-NL - Houston
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A feature I would like to see is like a bankroll management tool, where you could have multiple "buckets" where you could keep your money. You could keep a separate bucket for your bankroll and another for profit... if you make more than your bankroll goal it automatically goes into your profit. Our you could keep a completely different bucket for SnG's, or however you may want to separate your money.
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Lack of Discipline and Over-Confidence... The root of all poker evil.
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Gatlin Dan
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Flush
Join Date: Nov 2004
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Originally Posted by storm75m
A feature I would like to see is like a bankroll management tool, where you could have multiple "buckets" where you could keep your money. You could keep a separate bucket for your bankroll and another for profit... if you make more than your bankroll goal it automatically goes into your profit. Our you could keep a completely different bucket for SnG's, or however you may want to separate your money. |
This in essense is what neteller does. It's how I use it anyway. I frequently dump profits back into neteller. This allows me to take advantage of reload bonuses. If you were to leave it on the sight and put profits in seperate "buckets", you would not be able to take advantage of this. Another thing I like about using neteller this way is it acts as a 'bucket' for all online sites for which I play, not just one. I don't have to worry then about having funds tied up in an online site and have to wait for a cashout process from the site. Neteller is significantly faster than a lot of sites out there. It's not automatic like you suggested, but is a good way to keep your profits seperate from your working bankroll.
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Dunk
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Straight
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Metrowest Massachusetts
Posts: 131
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1) Always be able to see the value of a player's current bet. Yeah, I'm talking to you Party Poker - two players stacks can overlap images making the text unreadable.
2) Don't give me cutesy graphics - give me functional graphics. Knowing how much a player has, how much they're in for, and if they are in or folded is more important than some image of a 3d human model.
3) Keyboard shortcuts to betting controls, particularly so I can quickly type a non-standard size raise for NL game without fumbling.
4) All online games should have the "time to act" countdown bar that is currently only found on some sites.
5) Ability to say "Start Recording Hands" and "Stop Recording Hands" rather than having to hit the button for each individual hand every time. I often forget when I'm frustrated by a hand to hit the button until it's too late.
6) I haven't used them, but I think everyone should have the "Responsible Gaming Controls" that PokerRoom has. Looks like a good idea that could real save some people's butts.
what else...
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Note: new guy and very open to constructive criticism, so go ahead and weigh in! I'm here to learn.
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jmrogers7
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Full House
Join Date: Feb 2004
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- Definitely need resizable windows. In the absence of that, some sort of mini-view is a definite must.
- Customizable Buddy list.
- Do not include an uncalled bet in the size of the pot (Party, this means you).
- Do not include an uncalled bet in the rake (Pacific, this means you).
- Complete removal of the "Player Points" system of clearing bonuses. Bonuses should be cleared by playing X amount of raked hands and nothing else. The things that you can "buy" from poker sites with these Player Points are so silly that doing away with them totally wouldn't make anyone cry.
- All sites should save hand histories to your hard drive. Seems that more and more sites are going this way (Party/Skins, Crypto sites, PokerRoom).
- An "All-in" button for NL games instead of having to use the slider when going all-in (Crypto sites are the only ones I have seen with this feature).
- If you have a "Check/Fold In turn" option, you do not need a "Check" option. If you have a "Fold to any bet" option you do not need a "Fold" option. If you have a "Call any bet" option you do not need a "Call" option. Wasted space and clutters the screen with useless check boxes. If the bet is one that makes you think whether or not you are going to fold or call you are going to wait until it is your turn anyway to make that decision and can press the appropriate button at that point in time.
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ChezJ
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Full House
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Washington, D.C.
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- seat change: i know of no online cardroom that allows this
- readable chat window: only UB has this. all others have a teeny tiny 3-line window with a scrollback bar that is completely useless because the chat keeps moving. the reason i want this is so i can know who raised pre-flop while the hand is still in play.
- kill pot warning sound: to prevent me from entering kill pots by mistake.
- the option to fold when it is checked to me: most sites don't let me, so i have to click twice to fold -- "check" then "check/fold" after the action moves to someone else.
- hand histories that state the amount that i won, not the size of the final pot which includes my own money. some sites do this already.
- tables stats while at the table: it's too hard to go back to the lobby and find your table in the long moving list of tables. the ave pot size, % to flop, etc, should be available at the table as well. i've only seen one site that does this.
ChezJ
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koolmoe
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Full House
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Drowning in prosperity
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Originally Posted by jmrogers7
- Complete removal of the "Player Points" system of clearing bonuses. Bonuses should be cleared by playing X amount of raked hands and nothing else. The things that you can "buy" from poker sites with these Player Points are so silly that doing away with them totally wouldn't make anyone cry.
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I think Empire lets you redeem PP's for cash. I also like the WSOP freerolls for FPP's on PokerStars. They're crap shoots, but they're fun to play.
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Originally Posted by jmrogers7
- If you have a "Check/Fold In turn" option, you do not need a "Check" option. If you have a "Fold to any bet" option you do not need a "Fold" option. If you have a "Call any bet" option you do not need a "Call" option. Wasted space and clutters the screen with useless check boxes. If the bet is one that makes you think whether or not you are going to fold or call you are going to wait until it is your turn anyway to make that decision and can press the appropriate button at that point in time.
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These check boxes all work a little differently. For example, on Party, after you check, you can select the Fold checkbox to Fold if there is a bet after you (this allows you to check from EP and devote your attention to another table while the betting round completes). If it is checked around, the fold is turned off when the next card is revealed. OTOH, Fold to any bet stays active for the rest of the hand, so you may end up folding a turned gutshot or set that you would otherwise choose to play. Subtle difference, but important when you have a weak draw that you would fold to a bet but may want to play after seeing a free card.
As for the call any bet / call options, obviously there are hands that you might limp but would fold to a raise. Don't know why anyone would ever use the call any bet button, but I guess there are crazy cold callers out there.
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koolmoe
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Full House
Join Date: Jun 2004
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Aside from more fish and less rake, I'd have to say that the features that I most desire (and which make the Party skins so appealing to me are:
- Pokertracker Auto-import
- Observed hands hand history files for data mining
- Playerview compatibility
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Gatlin Dan
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Flush
Join Date: Nov 2004
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Originally Posted by jmrogers7
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- If you have a "Check/Fold In turn" option, you do not need a "Check" option.
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Having both of these are good for a limit player. There are often times where I want to check and not check/fold. I will often check and then decide to fold or call when the action comes back around to me. This would be very useful in drawing to straights and sometimes flushes.
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