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jmrogers7
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03-01-2004, 07:38 PM
Post subject: Comments: Table Selection: Soft $25 NLHE Ring Games On Party
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Full House
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{Discuss: http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/forum/poker-128.htm }
This is great information Fnord! Thanks for posting!
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mike4066
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Awesome thanks Fnord..
can't wait for the weekend to play.. been offline for about a week.. I've got the itch 
Taking this week spending more time reading / researching..
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Ragingguitarist18
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awesome info fnord, now just let me bookmark this page..
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Xianti
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Great info, Fnord. I've made this topic a Sticky.
Anyone that wishes to add to the discussion of online table selection should do so here in this topic.
Thanks.
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Aces
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Great topic, Fnord. I've incorporated you're suggestions into my play and added a few that I've found useful
Couple of other things I've been looking for before sitting down:
* Avoid tables with one big stack(> $75)(don't want to be bullied out of pots), or 3-4 moderate-to-high stacks(indicates a tough table).
* Look for tables with lots of people close to $25 +/-, with maybe 1-3 moderate stacks($35-60)
* Look for position on the biggest stack, especially if one is by far the biggest. If lucky, he'll turn out to be an "all-in maniac" and you can make a killing.
* Look for high end of average pot size(usually $15-$20 range)
Once I've joined the table:
* Lot of people limping
* See that multiple people are staying/calling on weak hands(Qxo, 46o - I'm not making this up) once some hands are shown.
* All-in maniacs, or weak all-in callers, if I have position on the lead maniac.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by Aces
* Avoid tables with one big stack(> $75)(don't want to be bullied out of pots), or 3-4 moderate-to-high stacks(indicates a tough table).
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It's easy to get $75 on a rush, particularly for calling stations. It's people well over $100 and $200+ that concern me!
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Originally Posted by Aces
* Look for high end of average pot size(usually $15-$20 range)
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$20+ isn't too hard to find.
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AceKing
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Great advice. I use to stay away from the stacks that were like $75 and up, but now I've give them a chance, because more often than not, they caught that money on a rush (like fnord said) and will give it back pretty easily. Just avoid tables with multiple stacks like that, because they probably already took it all from the fish.
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Aces
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Noticed it's getting more difficult to find 8-9 person tables with avg pots over $20. Guess the short-handed tables are getting too popular. I'm sure PP loves them as more tables=more rakes=more profit. I've been drifting to the $50NL if I can't find a $25NL table with good conditions.
Thousands of hands later, I've modified to playing at tables with stacks over $75. I still don't like seeing one or more stacks much over $100, or even 3-4 stacks of $50-$100 or so.
I've also had the best results when I'm able to get a read on many of the players, i.e. when there isn't too much table turnover, and I have a longer window of time to play.
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ilikeaces86
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try the pl25 they are so soft you can easily make 25$ an hour quad tabling them late at night. When I play them I only raise with aa kk qq ak I bet the pot on ever card with those aa kk qq if there is not overcard of course with the kk or qq
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mcclintok
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This very useful advice was first posted over a year ago and I am sure has provided many members significant benefit.
There has been some obvious developments in this area over the year and I was wondering how it affects table selection using all available info.
Specifically, those who use Poker Tracker can now 'scout' games not only for information on the general table dynamics but also for playing stats on individual players. I still use Fnord's advice to determine which tables to scout and generally try to get about 20 hands logged before jumping in.
As well of course how/if the new PP blind structure affects choices especially (for myself) regarding the $50 NL and $100 NL games.
I would really appreciate if Fnord (love the new avatar BTW) could update this thread with thoughts on general table VP$IP and PFR stats relative to pot size. Also wondered what type of autorated players you look for as a minimum to sit down at a particular table and when the rock garden/Taz levels are simply too big to bother with a table. Comments from Fnord and others would be greatly welcomed.
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Curtis-E
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There is no easier way to...
Know I'm a fucktard with a bot to hold my hand during play. (edited for content - a500lbgorilla}
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Curtis-E
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Gorilla
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Know I'm a fucktard with a bot to hold my hand during play. (edited for content - a500lbgorilla}
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Actually, I hold the bots hand while he strokes my ego, and other members of my body..........
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midas06
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Thanks for the info
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