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Renton
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03-26-2006, 05:29 AM
Post subject: Bonus Whoring?
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I am wondering about something. Is there enough value in whoring to compensate for the many disadvantages?
Here's what I mean. At PartyPoker, Paradise, or PokerStars, a cash game player has a large amount of luxury in the table selection/ seat selection department. In fact, nearly every good table session I can remember occurred only because of the fact that I was sitting at a GREAT loose passive table. I would think that just the table selection alone allows me to produce a 25% better winrate than at a site like Martins, where you have to take what you can get in the table selection department.
My question is, does the $/hour afforded by bonus whoring these sites enough to compensate? I am barely cutting an edge playing the 8max 50nl at Martinspoker, whereas I absolutely kill the game at Party, Paradise, and Prima.
I'd like to hear some thoughts on this.
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bdawg56kg
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Renton, here's what I think. At 100nl at below, or as long as your BR is about 5k or less, you should be always playing for a bonus. The added benefit of getting a bonus outweighs the lack of table selection imho, although I don't have any numbers to back this up. At 200nl and up I think the value of bonuses decreases significantly, as the table selection is the most important factor in where you play.
Also, I see that you are playing on the B2B network (martins). I have seen the various bonuses that B2B skins offer, and I would say it's definitely worth it, since the bonuses are so huge and relatively easy to clear. The obvious drawback I have experienced doing martins, is that the games are terrible. Tight action and hard to get paid off. But like I said before, how are you going to argue when the bonus alone will increase your BR by something like 20%?
Also, you should check out bonuswhores.com. They give tenative hourly rates for the various bonuses. It might be of some help.
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Trikflow77
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Originally Posted by bdawg56kg
Renton, here's what I think. At 100nl at below, or as long as your BR is about 5k or less, you should be always playing for a bonus. The added benefit of getting a bonus outweighs the lack of table selection imho, although I don't have any numbers to back this up. At 200nl and up I think the value of bonuses decreases significantly, as the table selection is the most important factor in where you play.
Also, I see that you are playing on the B2B network (martins). I have seen the various bonuses that B2B skins offer, and I would say it's definitely worth it, since the bonuses are so huge and relatively easy to clear. The obvious drawback I have experienced doing martins, is that the games are terrible. Tight action and hard to get paid off. But like I said before, how are you going to argue when the bonus alone will increase your BR by something like 20%?
Also, you should check out bonuswhores.com. They give tenative hourly rates for the various bonuses. It might be of some help. |
the 100nl and 200nl on B2B is very soft.....i beg to differ
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EasyT
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Originally Posted by Trikflow77
the 100nl and 200nl on B2B is very soft.....i beg to differ |
Only because I'm on the table.
Trikflow....get out of MY forum.........go back to your SNGs! 
{this is joking....trikflow and I had a nice game together, and I didn't even lose to him...........much. HEH, I got lucky}
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Miffed22001
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why are you concerned with win rate when you are getting free money?
Please reconsider your question :P
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Renton
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Originally Posted by Miffed22001
why are you concerned with win rate when you are getting free money?
Please reconsider your question :P
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Because the average casino bonus clears at the equivalent of 1-2ptbb/100 of the stakes you are playing. I think its perfectly reasonable to say that of two people of equal skill playing 100nl at Party and B2B, the one playing at party can maintain a win rate of at least 1-2ptbb/100 more than the B2B player.
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Trikflow77
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Originally Posted by Miffed22001
why are you concerned with win rate when you are getting free money?
Please reconsider your question :P
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Because the average casino bonus clears at the equivalent of 1-2ptbb/100 of the stakes you are playing. I think its perfectly reasonable to say that of two people of equal skill playing 100nl at Party and B2B, the one playing at party can maintain a win rate of at least 1-2ptbb/100 more than the B2B player. |
the 100nl and 200nl on B2B is just as fishy as party IMO
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Renton
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Originally Posted by Trikflow77
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Originally Posted by Renton
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Originally Posted by Miffed22001
why are you concerned with win rate when you are getting free money?
Please reconsider your question :P
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Because the average casino bonus clears at the equivalent of 1-2ptbb/100 of the stakes you are playing. I think its perfectly reasonable to say that of two people of equal skill playing 100nl at Party and B2B, the one playing at party can maintain a win rate of at least 1-2ptbb/100 more than the B2B player. |
the 100nl and 200nl on B2B is just as fishy as party IMO |
Well, I am a somewhat novice player, I kill party 50nl, and there are times I feel a little outclassed playing at Martins.
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