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Old 08-22-2005, 10:42 PM     Post subject: Best Rake Back? #1 (permalink)  
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I currently play micro-limit (.5-1) at PP and now that I have PokerTracker I find the amount of money I'm losing to the rake upsetting to say the least. Even a 20% rack back would be a welcomed bonus.

Party Poker no longer has rake back to my knowledge and I'm wondering what the forum would recommend as another site I should try out. What rake back programs are going to be around for a while?

As I understand it I cannot start a rakeback program at a site I currently have an account, correct?
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Old 08-22-2005, 10:46 PM #2 (permalink)  
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no u cannot get rakeback at a site you already have an account at

two rakeback places i kno that are reputable are..
PM me for it. =) Dont kno about the rules for rakeback.
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Old 08-22-2005, 11:40 PM     Post subject: PM me #3 (permalink)  
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Old 08-22-2005, 11:56 PM #4 (permalink)  
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PM so you get the bonus? Okay, I'll keep you guys in mind when I'm ready... although I was looking for some more general rake back tips
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Old 08-23-2005, 03:29 AM #5 (permalink)  
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You are correct that you cannot re-sign with a room you already have an account at. There are ways, but I don't see myself recommending them, or repeating them.

The PartySkin rakeback that I speculate will last longest is Eurobet, followed by Empire, Intertops, and Multipoker (in that order, IMHO).
I understand there is rakeback available for Absolute, but can't help you there.
There are many rooms that have rakeback available, but are lesser rooms, with lesser tables and higher limits.

Because of what you've experienced (closure of rakeback at Party) I'm sure you'll agree that you should have a couple places with rakeback in place, not putting all your rakeback eggs in one basket. And that the highest percentage rakeback is not as important as honesty and discretion -- the indescrete can be closed down next time there is a rule change.

Rakeback is awesome if you aren't working off bonuses, or if you are playing above the microlimits. Otherwise, rakeback signups can wait while you hunt for the more lucrative low-limit bonii.

FTR is brutal about spamming and doesn't cotton too many referrences to competition. Additionally, rakeback, by it's nature, should be fairly discreet. So if you want direct instruction on some of these matters you should either 1) be open to getting some PM's, or 2) send PM's to folks that seem to be of some help or intellegence.
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Old 08-23-2005, 03:41 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I'm a little confused as to why dicussing rake back is such a taboo topic, but I guess it's because FTR offers their own program. I assumed a rake back was like the 3rd party sign-up bonuses that I've used (I wont name them so nobody thinks I'm spamming). I started this post in hopes of getting recommends in the same way players can get insights on the various online poker rooms, but this doesn't seem to be the case.

As you can see I've received requests to PM players, but are they going to point me to a website and then ask to be used as a referal or is there more too it than that. It's all a little confusing and I don't want to sign up for one just because one person recommends it and find out I could have gotten a better deal somewhere else....

It's all a little sketchy at the moment ...
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Old 08-24-2005, 01:32 AM #7 (permalink)  
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FTR doesn't want to be a vehicle where people can come on here looking to benefit from its traffic.

People benefit from getting you under their rakeback plan.

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Old 08-24-2005, 02:40 AM #8 (permalink)  
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I dont get anythingback from any of the rakeback places i will recommend you guys. I just recommend what I use.

that is all.
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I'm a little confused as to why dicussing rake back is such a taboo topic, but I guess it's because FTR offers their own program. I assumed a rake back was like the 3rd party sign-up bonuses that I've used (I wont name them so nobody thinks I'm spamming). I started this post in hopes of getting recommends in the same way players can get insights on the various online poker rooms, but this doesn't seem to be the case.

As you can see I've received requests to PM players, but are they going to point me to a website and then ask to be used as a referal or is there more too it than that. It's all a little confusing and I don't want to sign up for one just because one person recommends it and find out I could have gotten a better deal somewhere else....

It's all a little sketchy at the moment ...
You are right about the 3rd party signup bonuses, etc. You get an affiliate (3rd party) who offers to share their take with you. You sign onto the new room with their code, so they start getting percentage on your play, then they split the percentage with you. They will have a website or just email (which feels a little weird, granted.) Some offer a tracking interface, others just send a personal check when they get around to it. The best deal you will find will be the one you find right after you finally make a descision (ask Murphy.)

Yes, the PM inviters are either going to point you to themselves or a 3rd party, probably for a free cookie. I like cookies too. You aren't giving up anything by letting them have a cookie from the referral. Especially because they are not spamming you, but asking nicely. But I guess I wasn't clear about the descretion issue.
There are two reasons you won't get straight out referrals in this thread (there are dozens of threads just like it all over FTR.)
First, when you sign with a rakeback affiliate, you are taking business away from FTR's non-rakeback offers.
Second, PartyPoker forbids its affiliates from offering rakeback, as do many other poker rooms. The rule was always there, but not enforced by Party until recently. The other PartSkins must abide by the very same rule, and some other rules that put a crimp in creative affiliate recruiting. One PSkin, PokerNow, was beat down for it's rakeback activities, and is now run directly by Party. The rakeback offers by PSkin affiliates now offered are offered through loopholes in the rules, and not called rakeback by Eurobet/Empire/Intertops/Multipoker, and constant public reference to these loopholes as "rakeback" will get the loopholes closed. Also, I believe there are still PartyPoker affiliates out there that provide rakeback, but they've only survived the 'cleansing' because they were extremely quiet about their rakeback offer in the first place. Understand?

Yes, you can find rakeback using Google. You intially asked which rakeback programs might be around for a while. I can only guess that rakeback will be around longest with quiet affiliates, who will be missed during the next rakeback cleansing, and who are also healthy, focused, honest, and dilligent -- not in jail, on drugs, degenerate gamb00lers, or otherwise incapable of completing your rakeback arrangement. Again, the highest percentage offered is not the most important consideration.

Talk about rakeback all you like. There are many, many threads on FTR that already talk rakeback. You just likely won't have anyone come out and say "see JoeBlow at SooperDooperRakeback . com. That kind of statement would come up on Google searches, and MIGHT eliminate Joe Blow's rakeback someday in the future. And that's the exact guy you wouldn't want to be signed with, right?

So if you don't want to trust just anyone who PM's you, perhaps you could try one of FTR's rakeback programs. I believe there are two, and they are wide-open-sanctioned by the poker rooms being offered, so that rakeback shouldn't ever dry up. If you want PSkin rakeback, Google it for a public arrangement and do your own research, or trust someone with a PM for their research or a more private arrangement. Eventually, you'll have to trust an individual on the other side of the internet, whom you've never met, to cut a check from their earnings and send it to you on a regular basis. You might as well start by trusting one of these FTR guys -- read their posts for character and helpfulness and gaming habits -- it is amazing what you can learn . Or just reach out to someone at FTR that you already trust and ask them.

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Old 08-24-2005, 09:54 AM #10 (permalink)  
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FTR doesn't want to be a vehicle where people can come on here looking to benefit from its traffic.

People benefit from getting you under their rakeback plan.

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how's your truepoker rakeback plan going .
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