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03-28-2006, 08:13 AM
Post subject: B2B Rundown
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Full House
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Every B2B bonus thread that pops up gets the same questions. Here's a summary. Add other repetitive questions that come up and I can edit this post.
How long?- Usually, the days listed in the bonus indicates BOTH the time limit to complete AND the the number of days after deposit that the bonus is awarded.
What limits does the bonus clear at?- It's done by VIP - they don't care which tables that is at. It goes pretty quick at €100NL, multitabling. Real slow at €20NL. Impossible at FLHE €0.10/0.20
How much rake for a VIP?- Most all places (95%) it is €0.31 or more per hand dealt. In NL, and lower FLHE, the pot must reach ~€7, and in €1/€2 FLHE and up the pot must reach €10.
Where's it show my bonus?- They don't show your bonus, except right before you deposit your money. They do show your current VIP points in the cashier.
Do I have to finish this huge VIP requirement? Will I get anything? - Possibly. Each bonus says the clearance rate for release of bonus, e.g., €10 per 100VIP. So that's what you will earn. There are a few bonuses that are all-or-nothing. Just read the terms.
Does XXXX code still work?- Probably not. You were wringing your hands and they likely canceled the bonus, BUT it costs you nothing to TRY the deposit code. B2B cashier doesn't take your money until you can double check the terms on the bonus. Nice. Also, it's not when you signup that counts, it's when you deposit. The ReferAFriend has 30 day limit though.
Can I deposit in USDollars?- Yes. B2B now offers USD deposit at a nice cost discount, compared to Neteller's exchange fees. Be sure you add enough USDollars to reach the proper Euro amount for your bonus.
Can I deposit for the bonus, then withdraw? - Used to always be able to, but there are more posted rules popping up among the B2B rooms saying you may not withdraw until the bonus requirements are completed. I would say you could ask CS, or just try. ALSO, you get one free W/D per 30 days, so plan ahead; it costs 800VIP or €10 for your 2nd W/D
If I spend my VIP's, will that screw up my bonus? I haven't got my bonus yet. - Sometimes there's a one day lag. Usually it is immediate.
How fast are the withdrawals?- Usually within minutes, sometimes as much as two days.
Does Poker Tracker work?- Yes, it does. After a recent change in B2B Hand Hx storage, HandHxGetter was need for a while, but now we're back to PT handling the whole hand history process -- see the PokerTracker Forum for a link to HHxgetter. GT+ also works. PokerAce doesn't work at this time.
When are the good times to play?I noticed the site is in {nation}. Is my money safe?- The money at 95% of the B2B is handled by 24hCashier, of the flagship B2B room.
I heard about concurrent bonuses here. - You can stll concurrently get a 1st timer bonus with the referral deal, and the VIP's count concurrent. Some sites are even having problems even stacking bonuses now, with recent software fixes to the concurrency 'glitch'. If the bonuses are in writing, get a screen shot of them until all this is ironed out.
I'm having trouble with my 2nd monitor with B2B.- This is very common. It helps to drag the lobby onto the 2nd monitor. If that doesn't fix it, resize the resolution while b2b is running.
It runs really slow.- This is very fast software. If you are having trouble, try using the download version. Also use the lobby options to turn off animations.
How many tables can I play at once? - I've had reports of 8 tables seated.
Can I join more than one B2B?- Currently, you can belong to many. A different nickname for each room is required, but same email, address, etc., all ok. You got a roomate? (brother?, wife?, etc?) A bonus can only be given once per house.
There is sometimes a referral name error message when trying to claim a ReferAFriend bonus at multiple B2B's. This can be circumvented by using a different IP address during the signup/referral process.
What's the VIP cashback program? {or, alternately} Where'd this extra money come from?- At most B2B's, you are rewarded for play over 1000VIP in a calendar month. For example, if you have a 3000VIP bonus, if you play 3001VIP in one calendar month, you will receive a €50 reward at the start of the next month. It pays to know the pay levels for the reward and time your play. For example, if you play 1501 VIP in March and 1500 VIP in April, you'll receive €10 at the start of April and another €10 at the start of May. But if you play all 3001 VIP in April, you'll receive €50 at the start of May. Plan ahead.
Bonus clearance rates? - for a B2B 5x bonus--
NL25 ~ 30 table hours per €100
NL50 ~ 20 table hours per €100
NL100 ~ 15 table hours per €100
NL200 ~ 10 table hours per €100
No reason to go higher. It clears slightly faster at NL400/600 but not enough to make it worth it, unless those are your normal stakes.
The ReferAFriend refferal bonus isn't working for me.- Two possibilities.
One, the most common, you are trying to enter your friend's nick AND the bonus code at signup. Don't do that. Save the bonus code for deposit time.
Two, you got the "Red Referral Error Message". That appears to be an IP address error that comes when you go to a 2nd B2B and try to collect a TAF. You need a fresh IP for signup. You can usually get a new IP address by 1) rebooting your modem, or 2) switching to dialup for the signup process, or 3) you can use a computer in another location.
Anything else?
edits - {changed FLHE notation, changed cost of 2nd w/d/mo, fixed low FLHE rake, added VIP cashback info, max tables and clearance rates, ReferAFriend fixes, PT update.}
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sinky
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Flush
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Originally Posted by eeeee
Does Poker Tracker work?
Yes, it does. After a recent change in B2B Hand Hx storage, you now need HandHxGetter -- see the PokerTracker Forum for a link. I'm sure this is temporary. G+ also works. PokerAce doesn't work at this time. |
No need for a hand grabber. B2B now writes hand histories directly onto your hard drive. But you first have to go into the lobby and then the options menu and then "hand history options" and choose where you want your hand histories
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Full House
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Originally Posted by sinky
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Originally Posted by eeeee
Does Poker Tracker work?
Yes, it does. After a recent change in B2B Hand Hx storage, you now need HandHxGetter -- see the PokerTracker Forum for a link. I'm sure this is temporary. G+ also works. PokerAce doesn't work at this time. |
No need for a hand grabber. B2B now writes hand histories directly onto your hard drive. But you first have to go into the lobby and then the options menu and then "hand history options" and choose where you want your hand histories |
The hand history errors have been over the last week, or so.
needed getter-->didn't need getter--> need getter again
I'm sure they'll fix it soon.
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Full House
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I added info about referAfriend fixes.
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natdang
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Flush
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According to the pokertracker site/forums, B2b has fixed the HH problems. (Haven't checked, since I cashed out of martins already)
But it would seem that ->don't need getter. 
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Full House
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Originally Posted by natdang
According to the pokertracker site/forums, B2b has fixed the HH problems. (Haven't checked, since I cashed out of martins already)
But it would seem that ->don't need getter. |
There was a PT update this morning - thanks! I fixed above.
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purespeed
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I tried signing up at another B2B room today, but I got the following error message after submitting step 2: (not verbatim)
"Only one friend referral bonus allowed per household!"
I then proceeded to power cycle my cable modem (I have comcast) then reboot my computer... when my computer restarted, I verified using command prompt that my ip address was different. I tried to create a new account again, and got the same error message... any ideas?
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natdang
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Flush
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Los Angeles
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I love these bonuses, except for the fact that they've turned into an MF'ing rock garden...
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EasyT
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Full House
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Originally Posted by purespeed
I tried signing up at another B2B room today, but I got the following error message after submitting step 2: (not verbatim)
"Only one friend referral bonus allowed per household!"
I then proceeded to power cycle my cable modem (I have comcast) then reboot my computer... when my computer restarted, I verified using command prompt that my ip address was different. I tried to create a new account again, and got the same error message... any ideas? |
I know for a fact that EEEEE had this same problem yesterday. And changing his IP didn't work (sorta). It seems that changing your IP by rebooting only changes within a small range...close enough that B2B is picking up on it.
Anyway, he took his laptop away from his house and found other wireless connections available. Using the random IP, he got through and got his RAF. I haven't run into this (yet). But I can pick up on a dozen or so of my neighbors wireless signals, so I'm doubting I have problems.
Good luck!
PM me if you have problems. I could sign you up for you.
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AHiltz
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4-of-a-Kind
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So, say a site has a 5x bonus with 150 hands to clear. I deposit for max bonus. But in order to get RAF bonus you have to play 200. So, after I have played the 150 for the initial deposit, can I redeposit using a reload and start playing those before they even pay me the initial bonus money?
Should I have stacked the bonuses right away and played them both off?
This is my first b2b and I was testing the waters, so I don't really care if I don't maximize a reload bonus.
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KoRnholio
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The RAF bonus clears simultaneously with the Deposit bonus I am 99% sure.
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Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
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purespeed
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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Originally Posted by EasyT
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Originally Posted by purespeed
I tried signing up at another B2B room today, but I got the following error message after submitting step 2: (not verbatim)
"Only one friend referral bonus allowed per household!"
I then proceeded to power cycle my cable modem (I have comcast) then reboot my computer... when my computer restarted, I verified using command prompt that my ip address was different. I tried to create a new account again, and got the same error message... any ideas? |
I know for a fact that EEEEE had this same problem yesterday. And changing his IP didn't work (sorta). It seems that changing your IP by rebooting only changes within a small range...close enough that B2B is picking up on it.
Anyway, he took his laptop away from his house and found other wireless connections available. Using the random IP, he got through and got his RAF. I haven't run into this (yet). But I can pick up on a dozen or so of my neighbors wireless signals, so I'm doubting I have problems.
Good luck!
PM me if you have problems. I could sign you up for you. |
In my case, I have a roommate w/ a labtop so I use a router to share the internet. Every time I unplugged the cable modem + router and rebooted, my IP address didn't change. I then removed the router from the system, so that my cpu was directly connected to the cable modem. When I rebooted my IP address was completely different, i.e it went from 192.168.x.x to xx.xxx.x.x or something (i dunno the exact numbers, it just looked quite different). Though even then I kept getting the error message 
Solution: I simply created the account at my workplace- no problems at all 
This is most likely a temporary solution... there are no other wireless networks in my neighborhood, so I may have to hit you up on that offer EasyT  Thanks!
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EasyT
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Full House
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Originally Posted by AHiltz
So, say a site has a 5x bonus with 150 hands to clear. I deposit for max bonus. But in order to get RAF bonus you have to play 200. So, after I have played the 150 for the initial deposit, can I redeposit using a reload and start playing those before they even pay me the initial bonus money?
Should I have stacked the bonuses right away and played them both off?
This is my first b2b and I was testing the waters, so I don't really care if I don't maximize a reload bonus. |
Sounds like PCE....hmmm.
I never thought of that! You'll get the RAF at 200 VIPs regardless of what other bonuses are involved. So YES! Deposit for the reload before playing off the remaining 50 VIPs. FYI....the PCE monthly reload has to be deposited for between the 1st and the 10th, I think.
EasyT
PS. I'm too dumb to have an avatar now. 
{EDIT: PPs. Nevermind. To bad that pic was taken with my phone and SUKKKS}
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AHiltz
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2005
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I'm playing at Pokerihuone. 30 max 150 to clear. Then there is 2 diff reloads. I will waste the lesser of the two with enough to get me to the 200 hands. There is no traffic on b2b when I'm home, so I just play 40 or so raked hands everyday from work. Nice little on the side money.
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EasyT
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Full House
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Pokerihuone has a choice of two Welcome Bonuses on their website, but no reload that I know of.
What's your source? What's the reload bonuscode?
EasyT
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Full House
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Static IP
Dynamic IP
Many cable internet connections are Static IP -- that means you get one IP number, always.
Others are Dynamic IP within a ~r~a~n~g~e of numbers, meaning you will eventually, even frequently, get the same IP address twice.
Phone modem connections are almost always true Dynamic IP.
For all the B2B's I'm signing, I'm considering getting a cheapo dialup service. Then I could do multiple signups too.
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AHiltz
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4-of-a-Kind
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Originally Posted by EasyT
Pokerihuone has a choice of two Welcome Bonuses on their website, but no reload that I know of.
What's your source? What's the reload bonuscode?
EasyT
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I was going off what B2B heaven had listed. If those aren't reloads, then fuck.
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AHiltz
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2005
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In regards to all this ip stuff, if you have a DSL connection like I do that uses PPPoE connections, setup a router. In my Linksys router I just have to press the disconnect button and then immediately press the connect button to get a totally new ip addy with no rebooting required.
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EasyT
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Full House
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Originally Posted by eeeee
For all the B2B's I'm signing, I'm considering getting a cheapo dialup service. Then I could do multiple signups too.
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