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Old 06-20-2008, 03:24 AM     Post subject: Attn: Rakeback math geeks.. #1 (permalink)  
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how HUGE is the difference between "dealt" rake and "contributed" rake when it comes to rakeback? is it as big as i am seeing?

i am on both AP and Cake right now. because i signed up at different times, i have two different accounts with different rakeback providers.

i have played, largely at the same level, 520 hands at AP and 1102 at Cake this month. i am showing $1.50ish for rakeback at AP and $7.50+ at Cake. by comparison, i should be showing $3.48 at AP if all things were created equally. is this $2 difference contributed vs dealt?

i am trying to decide if one site has the better deal. they both say the same thing/offer. i know its only $2. but, rakeback is rakeback, to me.
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Old 06-22-2008, 01:42 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Doesn't take a math geek. With dealt rb you get rb from every pot that happens on every table you are on. With contributed you only get rb when you contribute to the pot. 33% dealt on cake is definitely the better deal.
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Old 06-22-2008, 01:44 AM #3 (permalink)  
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What did you use to deposit on cake?
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Old 06-22-2008, 03:04 AM #4 (permalink)  
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epass back in the day...about 3 months ago...lol.

feel screwed about getting my money off there because there is a monster of a "withdrawal fee" to be issued a check. but, i dont feel too secure in their network, either. so, i am weighing my options.

while i sit, the rakeback is very nice...potentially. the player traffic sucks, but so do the players. so, i am in a bit of a quandary.

i kind of knew cake was the better deal, but it shocked me by how much. thanks.
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Old 06-22-2008, 04:28 AM #5 (permalink)  
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I'm debating between cake and carbon right now. Both sites seem fishy from observing tables. carbon 200400 nl plays like pokerstars 5 nl, but I'm not sure how much traffic they are going to get during the week. Not that I play those stakes anyway.

cake rake back looks like the best deal for americans. I just deposited some money in the shady ewalletxpress so we will see how that goes. I should start a new checking account now though and move all of my none "trust to shady site" monies to it.
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Old 06-22-2008, 04:36 AM #6 (permalink)  
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i would really appreciate it if you kept me updated on "eWalletExpress." i had noticed they are becoming a bit more accepted since epass dumped us. let me know how it goes please.

i know nothing of carbon. but, i can attest that low stakes at cake blow chunkies. lots of call stations. dont bluff much. NL gave me trouble before i stopped the senseless aggression, but its a bit better now. my troubles are getting paid off enough with my nit-ass tendencies.

however, if you play limit, these guys are ridiculously horrible. especially, 6max. thats where i live now. the rb piles in, and the players are pretty easy to adjust to. only problem there is traffic. i am trying to bust through .50/1, but cant ever find a table there, so i'm stuck at .25/.50, which is frustrating to say the least. i just need a bit of a heater to "take shots." then, the rb will fly through the gates.

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Old 06-25-2008, 03:36 AM #7 (permalink)  
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quick update...

granted i havent played a lot of hands over at cake. but, the rb is ridiculous compared to "contributed" sites.

this month i have 600ish hands at AP for a whopping $1.55 in rb. i have 1500 hands at cake and $11.68 in rb.

divide it per 100 hands and its TRIPLE!! $.26/100 hands at AP. but, $.76/100 at cake.

no brainer.
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also, isn't rakeback at AP only 27%, while cake is 33%? that would affect the math

 
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Old 07-08-2008, 01:55 PM #9 (permalink)  
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also, isn't rakeback at AP only 27%, while cake is 33%? that would affect the math
actually, its dealt vs contributed. thats the major difference. and, that difference amounts to about triple...for me. i tend to play a little tighter, but not much when playing limit.

playing .25/.50, i played about 2200 hands at cake and bagged $18 in rb for june. i dabbled with some 1/2 this month and am making $2/100 hands right now. thats a full bb. i'd say that cushions the winrate nicely.
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