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Toasty
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09-15-2004, 09:34 AM
Post subject: $1/$2 6max the hidden Gem . . .
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I decided to do a write up about this game as I seem to be the only FTRer who play's it consistantly.
A revelation I made this month regarding 1/2 was how much it's possible to earn. As most of you probably already know I hit a downswing of 200BBs at 2/4 this month *ouch*. My bankroll however is still the same as normal $1200 and I've still managed to cash out over $500 this month. This is mainly due to how well the 1/2 6max games have been for me this month.
I was going through my stats and what I realised was that although 1/2 is at a lower limit the decrease in players means you can play twice as many hands. (Pretty Obvious, but it produces some interesting results)
So comparing the two 1/2 vs 2/4 it's possible to win/lose the exact same amount. With the added bonuses that:
1 The 1/2 6max players are seriously weak, with at least 2 people per table seeing over 65% of the flops and it's not rare for someone to play every hand.
2 Because it's a lower level you only need half the bankroll $600.
3Because there are less players, it's much easier to spot how player's play and you can start uterlising this knoledge a lot quicker than at a full table.
4This is also the best game to clear bonuses with, you can play 1,000 hands in a few hours easily from playing 2-3 tables. Some tables average over 100 hands an hour. You will average around 37% flops seen (The Big Blind alone equates to 16.7% of this, if you played every BB). Which means you will be involved in a lot more raked pots.
There are downsides of course.
Short handed play is very different to full ring play (well duh) and if you don't adjust your game you will be eaten alive. People bluff a lot more (some players bet every single hand they are in, even willing to raise every street without a hand).
Be prepared for some monster bad beats and strings of them too, it's not uncommon to have AA cracked by 54o, or even 92o for that matter.
That's all for now if anyone has any questions, I'll try to answer them to the best of my knoledge. I thought I'd make this post as I know a few people are interested in learning Limit but are not bankrolled correctly for the 2/4+ games.
Xanti : Wasn't sure whether to post this in the Holdem Strategy section as it doesn't include any real strategys, I thought I'd let you decide.
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johnnyawe
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Yeah, a lot of what your saying is the difference between 6 max and 10 max tables.
I've been playing the 6 max tables for $25NL and $50NL on Party. I find them to be more fun to play because you can play more hands and get a better read on the other people at the table. It probably isn't as profitable or consistent as sitting down at a 10 max and waiting for group 1/group 2 hands, but its a hell of a lot more fun. The action moves a lot faster at the 6max tables tables, too. You can play just 1 table at a 6max and not get bored.
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Les_Worm
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09-15-2004, 08:01 PM
Post subject: Re: $1/$2 6max the hidden Gem . . .
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Originally Posted by Toasty
2 Because it's a lower level you only need half the bankroll $600.
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Yes, the limit is lower but I think with the table being short handed you still need a bankroll close to $1200. The variance is ridiculous at these games.
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Toasty
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$600 is fine if you beating the game
I rarely have to rebuy at these tables the players are that bad!!!
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Xianti
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09-16-2004, 06:42 AM
Post subject: Re: $1/$2 6max the hidden Gem . . .
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{Moved from Poker Etcetera}
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Originally Posted by Toasty
Xanti : Wasn't sure whether to post this in the Holdem Strategy section as it doesn't include any real strategys, I thought I'd let you decide.
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Tasty:
There will always be topics like this that don't fit clearly into any particular forum. You did the right thing by posting it here in Poker Etcetera. When in doubt, it's a poker miscellany.
But... and I had to think about this... ummmmm... Since these tips apply specifically to hold'em at online poker rooms, how about Online Poker Rooms? I figure people wanting to learn more about online poker rooms will find this topic informative.
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Xianti
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If I make a new LIMIT Hold'em forum (which will probably happen), this will fit nicely in there.
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VeraN
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Toasty is this on partypoker or pokerstars?
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JJgoneMAD
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Yes, the limit is lower but I think with the table being short handed you still need a bankroll close to $1200. The variance is ridiculous at these games.
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I agree with "Les_'worm', variance is huge at 6max limit games. I think you are better off playing NL if you are playing 6max tables. Although if you are beating the game consistently, i wouldn't argue with you
Long time no see boys.
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Toasty
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This is at the Party :P
I don't know why people keep going on about the variance, it's a little higher but the players are that bad its easy $$
Welcome back JJ
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I don't know why people keep going on about the variance, it's a little higher but the players are that bad its easy $$
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Then you must know what many of us don't. I'm not being sarcastic or anything, i really mean that you must know something that we don't. Maybe it's the preconception that i have about 6max games, i always thought the variance at those tables were huge, especially for limit games, the results were many and wild up and down bankroll swings when i play those. Personally, i feel that i can punish the poor players better playing 6max NL and i feel like i have more control of the game when i play NL 6max rather than 6max limit games. I think 6max games are far less mechanical than 10max tables, the feel for the game and recognizing players come into play a lot more than 10max tables. Limit game doesn't give you as much option to control the game as the NL game does. Of course, that is not to say that you won't get some bad beats playing NL 6max.
I could be wrong, in fact, i'm probably wrong. You are beating the game. Damn it, i think i'm gonna give it a try again. I'll let you know of the results after few sessions.
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