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Buckeye
Old 03-22-2006, 10:53 PM     Post subject: What to do here - Championship Tournament? #1 (permalink)  

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So we had a championship tounament last weekend - TOP 8 point holders over 10 games playing for $1000. A few hours in - 2 people out The initial chip leader (chaser) is down from 34K to ~20K, I got about 58K and call the $800 blind with QJs in late pos. Chaser is early and just calls (coulda been in the blinds). Everyone is playing fairly tight, mighta been one other caller and chaser is low in chips from seeing soo many "cheap flops". Flop comes QT8 rainbow. Chaser bets 1500 or so, fold, I call. Turn is an A, Chaser checks, I bet 2K, chaser pushes AI and starts takin sht about 2pr and I don't want any of this. Now I'm here with a decent pr and 2 way str8 draw, not really thinkin about what he has, just lookin at my outs. Do you call his last $17K or so - cause the morte chips he has, the more pots he is in and the more likely his luck will turn for the better.

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Old 03-23-2006, 01:25 PM #2 (permalink)  
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First thing to ask is if your outs are good
KJ - you are up shit creak
AT, A8 - you are out a few outs
AJ - you are are out a few outs
17K is a big chunk of your stack, I doubt I call here


 
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Old 03-23-2006, 01:57 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I say fold. My guess is that he really does have the two pair and is trying to goad you into calling. I put u at roughly 11 outs, a queen or a str8 card, so about a 22% of winning.
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Old 03-23-2006, 04:53 PM #4 (permalink)  

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I agreed with you both, so as I drew my hand closer to the center, I annouced I had a nice pair with alot of outs, it seemed like a sigh of relief came over him (he stopped talkin so much trash), suddenly I put him on a weak pair, worst case - increasing my outs to 13 if he had an A or having him dominated if he's on a str8 draw, (being that he see's any face card, so if he had any of TLR's hands, I think he woulda contained his excitement a little more from the beginning - really strong or really weak equals trash talkin with this guy but if he's down the middle, he likes to quietly see what happens - which basically increased my odds to a cointoss). I figured I would have enough chips if I lost to make a comeback, but a win here would eliminate this normally very lucky fool. So I flipped em over and called. Sure enough he had A3o (strangely, it felt good to see this, much unlike when I know I am beat)..... I hit my 9 and took him out - oh sweet day.

The best part is that his heart sank to the floor when HE finally felt what it's like to get sucked out on. This guy has almost (just once) never had a better hand prior to major action against me, and anytime he has won, it was on a suckout, or very lucky flop with bad odds to call in the first place. I.E. Blinds are 1200/2400, I am UTG with 4000, he had 5500 on the button and called my PF AI with Q9s against my AA and he flopped 2 pr. - Lucky MF'r.
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Old 03-23-2006, 06:56 PM #5 (permalink)  
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raise flop. you call the guy 'chaser"...
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Old 03-23-2006, 07:36 PM #6 (permalink)  

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raise flop. you call the guy 'chaser"...
Calling him 'chaser' is meant for his style of play, not necessarily his play this hand. Sorry for the confusion.

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Old 04-02-2006, 11:58 PM #7 (permalink)  
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damn, a3? I don't know the guy, but I know most of the better talkers in this situation just hit with KJ, talking about 2-pair to throw you way off. They hope you've got top two and are paying them off. Nice move pump-faking the fold!
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