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Shadowskills
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12-28-2004, 10:03 AM
Post subject: What can I do about the slowplay all day personality?
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Join Date: Sep 2004
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I have a friend that slowplays all the time. Lately he seems to have been winning a lot. He would check all the way down to the river. If he feels that the other person caught something while slowplaying, he would fold. So it would be little loss. But if he believes that he has something good, he'll reraise and will get people pot committed.
So how can I counter his slowplay? Any suggestions?
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steelwheel
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Straight
Join Date: Dec 2004
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sorry dont know how to help you, but I had a similar problem once.
When I first started playing NLH, with some friends of mine, we were all beginners at it right, and there were these two guys who slowplayed EVERYTHING!
They had seen the movie Rounders with MikeMcd slowplaying his straight, and thought it was cool to do the same, except they did it with EVERY damn hand!
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Fnord
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Join Date: Dec 2003
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Play more drawing hands and welcome the cheap cards. Bet the minimum that makes them fold when they miss.
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Brodie
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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Slowplaying all the time and winning a lot lately? Has he been playing against me, because that's all I seem to see right now!
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Brodie
"The present success is the hundred failures of the past."
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Shadowskills
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Join Date: Sep 2004
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Originally Posted by Brodie
Slowplaying all the time and winning a lot lately? Has he been playing against me, because that's all I seem to see right now!
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Are you saying that the people you play with slowplay 90% of the time? If so, what do you do to counter that?
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
Join Date: Sep 2004
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Slowly. Ironic as it may seem. You've gotta hit their blinds and never pay them off. They'll slowly die. But very slowly. Just find a new table.
-'rilla
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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Shadowskills
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Join Date: Sep 2004
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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
Slowly. Ironic as it may seem. You've gotta hit their blinds and never pay them off. They'll slowly die. But very slowly. Just find a new table.
-'rilla
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Hello,
I don't understand what you mean by "You've gotta hit their blinds and never pay them off."
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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Hiya,
Your problem is that they will never willingly put money into the pot without a great hand. So you've got to take EVERY pot. Which means you make preraises and bet the pot on the flop. He'll fold without a strong draw or a great, great hand. Learn to decipher the draws from the hands and never call his bets when he is way ahead. It takes forever though becuase the pots will be so small. But you've just gotta keep taking the small pots, fearing any time he puts money in post flop and hoping he will leave and an action player will sit down in his spot.
-'rilla
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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Shadowskills
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 62
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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
Hiya,
So you've got to take EVERY pot. Which means you make preraises and bet the pot on the flop. He'll fold without a strong draw or a great, great hand.
-'rilla
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So what you're saying is that I should steal the pot as much as possible?
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nick87
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Join Date: Jul 2004
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to me this situation doesn't seem to hard.
I guess there are two or three ways of going about it, but here is probably what I would do.
make it easier for you to get an idea of what they have.
i.e., raise preflop, bet good amount after the flop. If they call, you have an idea of where they're at, if they fold, then more chips for you to use against them . This allows you to steal pots, but not lose too many chips to them. The tricky part is when they start mixing it up.
in order to slowplay, you have to have something slowplay with. It just makes them that much easier to spot.
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DrumzCT
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Straight
Join Date: Jan 2005
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I used to be the guy that slowplayed everything and this is what used to get me and got me to change my style (for the better).
You slowplay you allow people to catch draws.
You also allow them to outdraw you when they would have folded to a good size bet.
I would slowplay my pocket aces and let some guy with 89 suited catch his straight or flush because i didn't push them out.
My slowplaying would also allow cards to come out that made me nervous enough to fold.
Now those are examples of slowplay backfiring. If someone has a monster that they know is best, just feel them out. Spend alittle money on a bet or raise and see what they do. It saves money in the long run.
And the best part is like Nick just said, if they start slowplaying you know theyve got something.
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Superstar
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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As soneone who is a cronic abuser of the slowplay, let me tell you, slowplaying backfires pretty often. And when it does you generally lose alot. Your friends will learn eventually, and in the mean time, enjoy it when it does backfire on them when there Pocket 3 of a kind gets flushed by you. Playing more drawing hands is good advise.
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DoGGz
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Play more drawing hands and welcome the cheap cards. Bet the minimum that makes them fold when they miss.
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Listen to this man  Draw and make them pay
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Rondavu
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Slowplay is slow death because 4th and 5th street improve other hands that you could have chased out long before. Other side of the coin is you allow 4th and 5th street to improve you against the slowplayer. That equates to playing more drawing hands, because those are the hands that 4th and 5th street will improve.
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It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
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