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carny32
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07-29-2004, 05:05 PM
Post subject: Very loose aggressive playing style
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 2
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This is my first post and i have seen alot of very helpful information on here so i thought i might run a situation by you.
I play in a home game with about 8 other people, among these 8 people there are about 4 players who play almost any mediocre hand for any raise no matter what position they are at or what position the raise came from, there are also 2 calling stations that will play literally evey hand from any position depending on the raise and any mediocre hand to any raise, the other 2 are tight passive players that im not worried about.
The other players at the table also like to bluff constently, If they raise before the flop dont hit their flop they will bluff it all the way to the river which sometimes pays them off and sometimes doesnt.
I play a tight aggressive style, i raise when i want to play a hand and i am very selective on the hands i play according to position at the table and situation. Im not an expert but i beleive my self to be above a beginner.
My problem is that i never can read what anyone has before the flop, with exception the the tight passive players, and when the flop comes out i never know if im in the lead or not. I have a problem where i can get bluffed out of alot of pots because i dont have a very good but i dont know what they have. And the times that I do think that i might have them, they end up catching a card or i just misread them and they actually have a good hand.
They never act different when they have a good hand or when they are bluffing and i am wondering if anyone has tips on strategy to play them or on tells that i might be able to pick up that i am missing.
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heatman
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Flush
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 312
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My advice - whatever the stakes are, see if you can talk them into doubling them.
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"Limit poker is a science, but no-limit is an art..."
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jobupoker
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Straight
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 111
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I'm in a home game with players a lot like you have described. I've found that my problem is that I don't bet big enough when I bet. I find that the calling stations and loose players are happy with calling small raises. If I want to raise I wouldn't raise very much and everyone would call and then I would be in your position.
I've since changed my style to be just as tight but more aggresive. The players aren't comfortable calling my bigger raise "just to see what I have". It's worked out well for me.
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Manomanman
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Straight
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 122
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Good, you're in a live action game. Players give off a lot of information when playing live. There's an article www.pokertop10.com that has good info on tells. Basic stuff...but requires practice to implement. You need to rack up about 80 or so hours of live play before this stuff sinks in.
I would just tighten up if I were you. I mean, play it straight up and bet big. If they're not going to fear your big hands, then at least make them pay for it. Once it has sunk into their big thick skulls that you're playing tight, you're then in position to steal a lot of pots.
You've got to get into a groove where you can predict what they're going to do based on their posture...a) do they always bet when they have chips in hand/eyeball their chips? Cool...slowplay your monster. b) Are they confident and loud when they throw chips in? Cool...raise them back big cause they're bluffing. c)Do they check in front of you with that "I"m ready to fold" look in their eyes? Cool...oblige them by raising.
Practice, practice, practice. It will sink in if you're trying. (And read read read.)
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jmontis
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Full House
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,296
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I used to play in a .05/.10 NL homegame with coworkers, and one guy was fairly wealthy. So one time when I had trip Aces, I threw a $20 bill on the table just to see some action, he opens his wallet and calls my bet. Then he flips over nothing. I'm like, well did you think I was bluffing or what? he didn't say anything
Lesson here is, loose players LIKE to call big bets, given the right circumstances, so play them well and it'll pay YOU well.
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Rondavu
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,053
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Your letting them get into your head. Let them steal pots where your not strong but definately ahead. Does it bother you to lose a pot where you have a pair of sevens and they have nothing? No biggie I say. Make your stand when you flop a set and hand them a hanky.
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It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
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richardwe
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 43
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When they are bluffin a lot I should bet big everytime a simular situation would come up:
the either got the goods or they dont and if they like to bluf a lot they probably wont have the goods all the time boostin youre win chances
also look for the stack your opponent is behind, big losers or winners might wanna push it, givin you the chance to get there money into youre wallet
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