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tenduece
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05-12-2005, 02:00 AM
Post subject: Vegas Strategy
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: USA
Posts: 3
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Hey all,
I'm new here and am leaving for Vegas in 2 weeks. Am suggestions you could offer for ring game strategy would be greatly appreciated.
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outphase
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Full House
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 949
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I don't know about Vegas, but where I played $1/2 live, tight was right for some in the beginning. Later in the night, when people began to get tired, I played back against the player, sometimes not looking at my cards (I was uberstacked at that point). Kinda like in Tilt: "did you look at your cards?" "no, I saw the way you looked at yours."
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pokerja3
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 22
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obvious advice: don't loose it all in one hand (WARNING: easier said than done)....don't fall in love w/ your hand like we all have done before...and don't up your limits at any time, no matter how well your doing
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dsaxton
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 2,667
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Just go with sufficient funds so you don't overextend yourself. The lowest stakes you'll be able to find for no limit are $1/$2.
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ManhattanMan
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 40
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While I have not played in person at a casino yet (I'll be going to Las Vegas in a few months, and Atlantic City soon), my best advice would be to at least start out pretty tight - maybe tighter than normal. It's better to get an idea of the table's players before committing loads of chips to a pot, unless you know you have a good hand.
My biggest problem since I started playing ring games online is that I push a bit too far in post-flop play at the start, and I end up losing a few good-sized pots because I haven't given myself a good chance to tell who the solid players are, and who the dumb players are.
A great website with Las Vegas poker information:
www.allvegaspoker.com
Disclaimer: I have absolutely no affiliation with this website, and to my knowledge, the website doesn't sell any services at all, so this is NOT spam. It contains free information about the Las Vegas Poker rooms, and I've found it to be very interesting and helpful.
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ChezJ
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Full House
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Washington, D.C.
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this thread belongs in "Offline Casinos"...
i am also going to vegas soon. last time i was there, i got creamed by a lot of aggressive play. but that was playing $1-$5 stud. i played a little bit of the $1-$2 and $1-$3 HE and did okay but could not overcome the atrocious rake and blinds.
since then, my HE game has improved dramatically and i've made hundreds of bucks playing $2/$4 and $3/$6 HE in atlantic city. the fish were incredibly passive and i just took their money like candy from a baby.
i keep hearing that vegas is tougher than a.c. though, and i can't help but remember how badly i got beaten at the stud tables last time.
can someone please share their observations on how loose/tight and passive/aggressive the HE ring games are in vegas? specifically the $2/$4, $3/$6, and $4/$8 games. i remember fnord saying the $4/$8 at mandalay is a bonanza but i didn't get a sense of what kinds of opponents he faced -- passives or maniacs or something in between.
also, i am getting really good at NL HE, but the games i've been playing have been really passive. i don't know whether i could hold my own against very aggressive opponents in NL who steal a lot of pots. what is the average $1/$2 NL table in vegas like, in terms of aggression? is it as seriously weak as the $25 NL online? or is it a bunch of college punks in baseball caps flexing their testosterone with all-in's on every hand?
ChezJ
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tenduece
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: USA
Posts: 3
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Thanks guys,
I appreciate any help you can give me about vegas play. A good friend of mine just came back and said he was faced with an all-in situation on almost every hand. Sounds a little more aggressive than my usual home game. But, I'll definitely play tighter than usual. Hopefully someone can offer more useful advice.
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ChezJ
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Full House
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Washington, D.C.
Posts: 1,456
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thanks for the awesome link to allvegaspoker.com, this is a fantastic resource that did not exist last year when i was lookin for poker. seems like there are about 3x more poker rooms than there were 12 months ago.
i notice a lot of spread limit games instead of fixed limit games. anyone have a good strategy on how to bet at these tables? i imagine you can protect your hands on early streets by betting the max, but if people are still drawing on the turn and river you're basically screwed, no?
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Xianti
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Join Date: Dec 2003
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tenduece
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: USA
Posts: 3
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I've heard some horror stories about Vegas NL Hold'em. Guys who buy in for the max, then amass a mound of chips, and bully the table buy forcing an all-in decision on almost every hand. I'm sure there will be some of these people there. But does anyone know where I can find a game where I can sit down and play with $100 max buy-in. I'm staying for a week in Vegas and would like to play as many nights as possible.
Thanks for the advice
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TanO
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 315
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Depending when you sit down to play you may join a table with big stacks at it, but you can easily play tight and avoid these guys if you're sensible. The worst times for this are between midnight and 2 am, when guys have been playing since 8pm and stacking chips.
The easiest way we found to avoid this was to ask if the 2 or 3 of us who wanted to join could start a new table. The Luxor allowed us to do this, as did the Monte Carlo. Limit is far more popular on the tables here than NLHE and so they seemed happy enough to accomodate us. Starting a new table means you're gonna have the same chips and a level playing field.
Luxor's game is $50 Min/Max and blinds are $1/$1/$2, unless its short handed where they drop the blinds to $1/$2.
Monte Carlo is $100 Min / $200 Max and blinds $1/$2, its more aggressive so buyin for the max.
MGM have games running constantly and its the same structure as Monte Carlo, they also have bigger NL games but $1/$2 was plenty for me, especially when a standard raise is $10 or $15. There is also a bar right next to the tables and the play was truly mental from 2-5am, great laughs, guys who couldnt even read the numbers anymore still playing !
Hope this helps, I can't wait to go back !
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Cavalry21
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Cleveland, OH
Posts: 61
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Great Link there, thanks alot. I'm headed out this weekend and have been looking for something like this. Only room I've played at was Luxor, and maybe it was just that night but the 1-1-2 game was pretty damn loose. I went from $50-$450 in a couple hours with the help of a good run of cards. Sounds like the MGM has a good game, can't wait.
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