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LawDude
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12-07-2009, 01:05 AM
Post subject: simple bet sizing question
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I occasionally play a no limit table when waiting to play limit, and I always wonder if I am sizing my 3-bets correctly. So here's another example (I posted one last week in the BC). $300 NL at Hustler, blinds are $2 and $5. Hero's stack is about $420, UTG has about $180 or so.
Hero is in MP3 with AdKd. UTG, who has a pretty broad raising range, raises to $15. Folds to Hero.
What's my 3-bet size?
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Fnord
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$40 to control the pot in this short stacked game and encourage a wide range to call (out of position.)
Flatting is fine too.
edit: Or if he's a real tool, $70 and shove any flop. Values higher than $40ish but less than $60ish make for an awkward SPR on the flop.
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LawDude
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Thanks, Fnord. I pretty much know how to play AKs post-flop if I pop this and get called (by the original raiser or by multiple callers) or re-raised. But I am intrigued by your suggestion that I flat this. Let's say I decide to flat this-- what is my plan then for the rest of the hand?
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by LawDude
Let's say I decide to flat this-- what is my plan then for the rest of the hand?
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You have a good hand, position on the opener and will encourage other weak hands to come in, particularly from the blinds. Also, the small raise builds up the pot good. You should show a profit flatting, it's just a matter of if re-raising will show a bigger profit and how it all plays into the table dynamic. However, with players in position remaining to act, it gives you more incentive to raise so you can blow the off of the button. Hence, from the BN or CO you should be MORE inclined to just flat in this spot.
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LawDude
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Originally Posted by Fnord
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Originally Posted by LawDude
Let's say I decide to flat this-- what is my plan then for the rest of the hand?
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You have a good hand, position on the opener and will encourage other weak hands to come in, particularly from the blinds. Also, the small raise builds up the pot good. You should show a profit flatting, it's just a matter of if re-raising will show a bigger profit and how it all plays into the table dynamic. However, with players in position remaining to act, it gives you more incentive to raise so you can blow the off of the button. Hence, from the BN or CO you should be MORE inclined to just flat in this spot. |
Does this mean, however, that if I get lots of callers behind me I am going to have to give up on the hand if I airball the flop? (Whereas I can c-bet if I get myself heads up against the original raiser.)
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Fnord
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Can't win 'em all.
Multi-way I'm giving up a lot if I whiff.
2 or 3 way, AK is a nice hand to contest a flop with even if you miss.
Also you should have a general sense of when a nice looking pot is generally up for grabs...
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