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solfan

07-05-2005, 04:10 PM Post subject: Ring Table Home Game rules

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I have a question for those of you that host regular home ring-table games.

I have a regular group that plays weekly at my house with some new people every now and then. Things have been great for the last couple months that we've been playing ring-table instead of tourneys.... until my last game when a new person was invited who was very new to poker.

I have a question about how you guys do cash outs... When someone cashes out their chips, do you make them sit out a while before buying back in with less than they had? In other words.. Someone is up to 50 bucks.. they cash out 40 of that and keep playing on their remaining 10...

That doesn't seem fair to the other players if someone cashes out down to 5 dollars every time they win a hand.

I feel like there should be a waiting time before the player is allowed to buy back into a seat at the table. If this seems fair/logical, how long of a period should this be? 30 minutes? an hour?

Let me know what you guys think. I'd tell why I'm even considering adding this to my games.. but it would take pages to tell the hell we all went through at the last game..

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DownLowHo

07-05-2005, 04:26 PM

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I don't think anyone should be allowed to cash out until they are ready to leave. Here is an article on table stakes.

http://www.pokermagazine.com/Poker-R...etiquette.html

TN_POKER_MAN

07-05-2005, 07:22 PM

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I don't really see the problem. In fact, i'd almost prefer the HUGE stacks cash out some of their chips or sell them to other players (as opposed to buying chips from the bank).

Seems that when a player gets a HUGE stack, they have a tendency to bully the other players. You almost have to be willing to put all your chips in the pot on every hand you play. I know they earned the right to bully folks by winning those chips, but the game seems to morph into a different game late in the evening when folks get HUGE stacks.

evman150

07-05-2005, 08:48 PM

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No cashouts allowed. No leaving unless you're busted or the night's over or you say before the game starts that you have to leave at a certain time.

In other words, you can't take my money and run without giving me a chance to win it back from you.

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DrumzCT

07-05-2005, 10:40 PM

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No cashouts allowed. No leaving unless you're busted or the night's over or you say before the game starts that you have to leave at a certain time.

That seems alittle too restrictive. If I'm tired and feel I'm not playing my best anymore due to fatigue I'm leaving with my ahrd earned money.

What me and my friends usually do is when you want to leave you tell everyone. Then you are required to stay through an entire orbit. Granted they can just fold but at least its a chance for them to get into a hand if they are so enticed by thier cards.

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FyrFytr998

07-07-2005, 03:35 AM

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That's why when me and my buddies get together it's strictly SNG's with quick but not quite "turbo" rounds. Sucks for the guy who busts early, but it garuantees no hit and run artisits.

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johnnyawe

07-08-2005, 03:36 AM

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There really is only one way to do this:

You can cash out at any time, but once you cash out your are done for the night. No partial cash outs. No buying back in once you cash out.

Chip transfers are tough. I have a "no chip transfer rule", but I got a little lax on it because everyone seemed to think it was a stupid rule. I think I am going to strictly enforce it from now on. The idea is partly to get more money on the table, but also something more..

The different stack sizes between players is one of the things that makes No Limit Hold 'Em fun. It adds a whole new element of strategy if one or two poeople are playing a tall stack, another two are short stacked, and the other two are somewhere in between. Skilled players know how to adjust their game for these different situations.

cartilago77

07-08-2005, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnyawe

There really is only one way to do this:

You can cash out at any time, but once you cash out your are done for the night. No partial cash outs. No buying back in once you cash out.

Chip transfers are tough. I have a "no chip transfer rule", but I got a little lax on it because everyone seemed to think it was a stupid rule. I think I am going to strictly enforce it from now on. The idea is partly to get more money on the table, but also something more..

The different stack sizes between players is one of the things that makes No Limit Hold 'Em fun. It adds a whole new element of strategy if one or two poeople are playing a tall stack, another two are short stacked, and the other two are somewhere in between. Skilled players know how to adjust their game for these different situations.

We rarely allow chip transfers. One guy, a total fish, will hit some big rivers and get up a few hundred and want to give some of his chips to a buddy watching who plays a very tight game with little chance of getting those chips back in with anything but AA or KK. We would prefer they stay with the maniac who is more than happy to pump them back into the game with 5-2 offsuit.

outphase

07-08-2005, 11:53 AM

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Money on the table stays on the table or goes home with a player. It should never be dead at your game because that's unfair to the person who lost it. You are allowed to buy back in but only for the exact amount you cashed out for.

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bobmarlon

07-09-2005, 12:34 AM

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1. Make people leave who cash out

2. Set a cash out time where you can cash out.

3 after the cash out time set a later cash out time for those who decide to keep playing

4. only let players cash out when there are 2 or three players left who all agree to cash out.

5. Make people who cash out early pay a few bucks into the next pot

those are some different rules we use to eliminate cashing out early.

ensign_lee

07-09-2005, 06:09 AM

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The way my friends and I play, we play for fun with a little bit of cash involved ($5 buy-ins normal). So basically, if there's not already a rule for something already, just think about how douchebaggy doing something is, and then gage a reaction on that.

Case in point; someone cashing out right after they won a lot of chips. That is a douchebag thing to do.

Our games, you can cash out whenever you want, but you can't cash out until you're done for the night. If something comes up and you need to leave, you know, we understand. But since you need to leave, you obviously aren't coming back, so no rebuying later.

We generally don't allow you to buy chips from another player, basically increasing your stack and decreasing theirs. Why? Because to do so takes money off the table and puts it into someone's pocket, pure and simple. By buying chips from the "bank", we ensure that the money that gets put into the table, stays on teh table until the game's done.

Plus, everyone often buys in relatively short-stacked at our games anyway. Blinds are .05-.10, but everyone always wants to buy in with just freaking $5. They sometimes yell at me for buying in with $10 (what should be the max) straight off, so yeah.

Just keep one thing in mind whenever any situations come up at home games; you're there to have fun, not to take everyone's money. If something comes up, let majority rule. Majorities, if they can do anything, can weed out douchebaggy actions.

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bair

07-16-2005, 09:06 PM

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1. no chip transfers
2. can cash out whenever you want as long as you aren't in a blind
3. can't buy back in for less than you cashed out with

Les_Worm

07-16-2005, 10:03 PM

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At my game you don't cash out until you are going home, no exceptions.

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DoGGz

07-18-2005, 12:47 AM

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Jesus I'd hate to play are your home game. Why make it harder then it should be?

Chips stay on the table. If you have to leave you can come back but you have to buy back for the same ammount you left with. Why make up rules that aren't REAL POKER RULES?

Here is my douchebag rule.

If you make me wait 30 minutes to cash out when I need to go, I'm going to make that the shittiest 30 minutes of your life.

Someone tried to pull that on me when I had to go. I waiting 1 minute per decision and after five minutes they just left me go. I never played with those douches again, even though it was easy money.

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