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synthesist
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08-11-2005, 04:10 PM
Post subject: RESPECT?
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Oak Park, Illinois
Posts: 33
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I'd like to know what it takes for a player to earn your respect? Conversely, how does a player cause your respect for them to evaporate?
Is respect the same as fear, or is fear merely a one component of respect?
If you respect someone as a person do you automatically respect their game of poker or backgammon or gin rummy?
Do you give someone respect until they do something to lose it, or do they have to earn it by showing you skill, tenacity, guile etc?
I am very curious about this.
Syn
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EricE
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Full House
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 894
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I would not give someone respect in poker until they showed they deserved it in poker. Like if I were playing against my boss they would not have any respect on the first hand we played unless I had some reason to believe they deserved it (like poker discussions with him/her that showed he/she were savy). They earn poker respect by showing skill, guile…beating me. Hehe.
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pokerfanatic
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: 6max limit tables
Posts: 1,968
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I like this post I never really gave much thought to this... but a player can have good and bad respect...
I'll talk about the good first. Good respect is when you can make plays at opponents and they will give you more respect then you deserve... I actually was getting too much respect at a tough 1/2 limit table I just closed down... I started showing complete stone cold bluffs that worked to try to generate some action lol I stole maybe $10 worth of pots doing this... That's good respect IMO if you can take down a lot of small pots with nothing I’ll take that respect...
Bad respect would be having everyone call when you had shit and no one calling when you had the goods... that's real bad, IF you get unlucky with your big hands but it can also be real bad because now you win the little ones but loose the big ones... really if anything you want that to be opposite or win both...
No respect would be everyone calling everything you do you could cap 5 ways with AA... lol I love those pots... when you get no respect that effects a part of your game the ability to out play your opponents now your forced to show them hands and nut peddle... that can get really frustrating as well as boring...
Fear plays into god respect in my opinion. If I can strike fear into my opponents they will play more passively against me and I’ll grind them down by leaning on them... basically they show you any resistance and you don't have a hand get out of that hand and keep leaning on them till the crumble... HU especially I’ll take 20 small pots loose a medium one but I fold before it gets to where I’m past the amount I won from the 20 small pots... and repeat, this takes patience but it's a sure fire way to use fear to your advantage... If a player knows I’m a good player and bettor then him and plays me passively do to that, I consider that fear, he's scared I’ll pick up on his bluffs and fold to his big hands so he nut peddles, and I take many small pots repeatedly and eventually grind him down...
Adjusting your game do to the kind of respect you are getting could mean the difference between a winning session and a break even session...
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synthesist
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Oak Park, Illinois
Posts: 33
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Well those are both thoughtful replies.
I appreciate it.
Syn
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lamaros
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 346
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Give respect untill they lose it, and keep watching them anyway. Esp at B&M ring games you get too many guys who know how to play an image well...
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