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MoChedda
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08-21-2005, 11:10 PM
Post subject: pulse on the neck
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So im playing a $20 NL Texas Holdem game, i made it to top 3 and was slightly short stacked. Anyways the game gets heated with hard preflop raises and i notice the pulse on his guys neck is beating rapidly whenever he raises about a third of his chips. So i called one of his raises and it ends up that he had pocket jacks. Later on he raises hard again and ends up turning up pocket Kings. The third times he raises he turns over pocket Tens. Each and everytime he raises with tthses pockets the pulse on his next was going off. 3 out 3 times his pulse went nuts he turned over pockets. This tell ended up saving me from his all in which he got knocked out for and i won at the end  . So be on the lookout for this, it might help.
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Gump47371
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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Never used that one before, but my brother once had a guy tell him that he could see his chest thumping under his shirt when he had a big hand once.
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jwsisliving1
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May seem like a stupid question, but how do you see a guy's pulse? I have no clue what his pulse would look like. Maybe I need to spend alot more time looking at player's necks. Also, it seems like the chest beating hard under the shirt would be very very subtle. Maybe a very slight and/or short shaking around his chest area. Wow, I'd think you'd have to be a pretty observative player to notice it.
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jmontis
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Very weak players can get nervous with strong hands, while stronger players are relaxed... you just have to be careful.
Tells are over rated, but when you're in doubt, go with your gut or EV.
However, I have seen a dude's neck throb from being nervous on a bluff, all you have to say is "you got much?" and gauge their reactions.
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take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately
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DaNutsInYoEye
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"The most common tell is the pulse in a man’s neck. On a lot of people, the pulse in the neck is visible. If so, a man can’t hide it, since nobody can control his heartbeat in stress situations."
- Doyle "Texas Dolly" Brunson - from Super System
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TheXianti: (Triptanes) why are you not a thinking person?
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DaNutsInYoEye
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"The most common tell is the pulse in a man’s neck. On a lot of people, the pulse in the neck is visible. If so, a man can’t hide it, since nobody can control his heartbeat in stress situations."
- Doyle "Texas Dolly" Brunson - from Super System
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TheXianti: (Triptanes) why are you not a thinking person?
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ThelVlaster
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So is the general consensus that a high pulse means he hit a good hand, or is very nervous about you calling his bluff?
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T.M
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hes got a good hand, to excited about it he becomes nervous, on average, never know it might be the opposite, but i doubt it.
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bluedevil907
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Preflop, if the player isn't somehow tilted, it's a good hand. If the player is suddenly silent as a rock with the vein going off, you can be almost certain it's a BIG hand. If he simply is excited after winning a big pot and can't calm down however, it's likely just the adrenaline still in effect, so don't rely on this tell alone, but it can certainly help.
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mb2447
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This one time I flopped a straight in headsup play and check-raised, got re-raised, and stalled intentionally to convince my opponent to put it all in. He did, and I won, but after the hand my friend sitting next to me said that he could hear me breathing rapidly and knew I had a hand. Took me totally by surprise, and I'll have to watch out for that in the future. I guess thats why some players chew gum, to regulate their breathing.
This happen to any of you?
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DaNutsInYoEye
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I'm sure you can easily see the pulse in my neck when I have a big hand because I can feel it myself. Unfortunately I haven't been able to learn how to control it yet. Perhaps with more live experience I will be able to. The thing though is that the exact same thing happens when I'm bluffing so luckily it isn't a reliable tell.
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TheXianti: (Triptanes) why are you not a thinking person?
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DaNutsInYoEye
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I'm sure you can easily see the pulse in my neck when I have a big hand because I can feel it myself. Unfortunately I haven't been able to learn how to control it yet. Perhaps with more live experience I will be able to. The thing though is that the exact same thing happens when I'm bluffing so luckily it isn't a reliable tell.
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TheXianti: (Triptanes) why are you not a thinking person?
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ProZachNation
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Is that why Ferguson has so much facial hair so you have a hard time seeing his neck? Or the Unibomber wears the hoodie all the time so you cannt see his neck.
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I didn't think its Bold to bang some chick with my bro. but i guess so... thats +EV in my book.
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Muxy
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yeah check it, i have no tells.
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fasin8ing
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Originally Posted by jwsisliving1
May seem like a stupid question, but how do you see a guy's pulse? I have no clue what his pulse would look like. Maybe I need to spend alot more time looking at player's necks. Also, it seems like the chest beating hard under the shirt would be very very subtle. Maybe a very slight and/or short shaking around his chest area. Wow, I'd think you'd have to be a pretty observative player to notice it.
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Dude .. its the carotid artery . Its on both sides of the neck. Locate your adams apple... The go left or right an inch .. Feel for your pulse. I like shaky hands while betting. Always a tell of a strong hand. When they grab their chips watch their hands. Or if your bluffing.. try to shake a little.
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9999999
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so maybe if you know that a clever player might pick up on this tell, you could do a bunch of crack and pull off a bluff thats sure to scoop the pot since you're pulsating
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swiggidy
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Originally Posted by 9999999
so maybe if you know that a clever player might pick up on this tell, you could do a bunch of crack and pull off a bluff thats sure to scoop the pot since you're pulsating
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wtf? terrible bump
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9999999
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im new here whats terrible bump mean
nice avatar
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swiggidy
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im new here whats terrible bump mean
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terrible = bad
bump = posting in an old thread "bumps" it back up to the top of the forum, people are forced to read it again because we can't help ourselves
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9999999
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oh ok good i thought maybe i had chicken pocks HAHAH omg . (terrible bumps)
btw wasnt even a bump since the msg BEFORE my msg was about carteroid arteries and my message was about pulsating carteroid artieries (influenced by crack use)
dont even try and say im bumpin when i aint even bumpin, sheeit. (mumbles to self)try and say im bumpin when i aint even bumpin
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swiggidy
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fasin8ing
Posted: Sat, 04 Mar 2006, 8:55pm
99999999
Posted: Fri, 06 Oct 2006, 5:12am
Making a zero content post 6 months later is in deed a bump
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pokerroomace
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i think the high pulse can be a sign of strength or weakness depending on the player. you'll have to see a few of his hands before you can decide. it could be strength or weakness
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phantom_lord
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Originally Posted by pokerroomace
i think the high pulse can be a sign of strength or weakness depending on the player. you'll have to see a few of his hands before you can decide. it could be strength or weakness
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Differnent tells for different players, what may a sign of strength in one is weakness in another.
i was watching a guy the other night at the table, I saw him go red and his pulse go crazy at one stage, basically he had jacks on a kq high board and was pissed his c-bet didn't get through.
Later I was able to make 2 good lay downs both times he was uber calm and had pocket rockets.
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Numbr2intheWorld
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I had a friend who check raised a C-bet with nothing because the neck pulse. I forget the entire story, but i think the opp was acting like he was strong but the neck pulse was fast, also i think he noticed the neck pulse right after the opp made the bet. He was right and the opp folded to the check raise.
I think it depends, you have to think about the situation and WHEN THE FAST BEATING STARTS. If the fast beating starts when the cards come, it's obviously a huge hand. If it's after a bet, it may be a bluff.
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bigslikk
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The way to control those tells- you're heart beating fast when you have Aces, Kings, when you're on a bluff... is to maintain a disterested attitude throughout the game. Consciously prevent yourself from being caught up in the game.
While it can be an emotional thrill to look down at a nice pair- you should come to game stoic, zenlike, just not caring about winning or losing- trying to win, but not staking your heart in it. Disinterested.
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DaNutsInYoEye
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wow. i sure did double post a lot back then.
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TheXianti: (Triptanes) why are you not a thinking person?
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DaNutsInYoEye
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wow. i sure did double post a lot back then.
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