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Old 08-04-2010, 05:06 AM     Post subject: Possible Rebluff shove spot on river (1/2nl) #1 (permalink)  
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 i haz very dirty image and everyone at the table hates me. SB in the hand is pretty new to the table. older, prolly tight passive-ish type player. you know the type who would prolly be running like 22/7 if we were running HUD but mainly just stabs at small pots and the random protection bets and is capable of folding anything but the nuts to a big raise. this is only a guess based on ~20 hands about 5 of which he's seen the flop on and based on his general demographic, quietness at the table, etc.

hasn't been there long enough to see any of my big hands/show off bluffs, but i've raised enough times preflop to get grumbles, and he's sitting next to the phil helmouth of the table so i'm sure he's heard all about me triple barreling 65o and crap like that. prolly doesn't have enough of a read to go completely bonkers on me though just based on some stories he's heard and based on a couple hands i took down with a cbet, but he's likely suspicious.

anyway to the hand:

i'm dealt in the CO; folds to me (weird)

Hero opens for $7, SB calls, everyone else folds. SB has like ~$125 ish? and i have him covered.

Flop ($16) comes

Villain quickly checks, which i expect him to do with much of his range, but he seems calm and unaffected by the flop. i slightly weigh his range away from two pair+ hands. i think for like 3 seconds and check back.


Turn ($16) comes

The board now reads


He leads into me for 10 without thinking much, and i decide if i'm gonna bluff, i'm gonna wait til i can actually rep something and call without thinking too much

River ($36) comes

He bets $30 without any hesitation whatsoever, like, i'm not even certain he saw what the river was.

I figure this heavily polarizes his range between bluffs/hands he's retardedly turning into a bluff and two pair+ type hands that aren't scared at all by this card. his sizing and timing really seem to weight it away from two pairs (which is the majority of his value range) other than like A8 since there's no such thing as a standard vbet without the nuts for the type of player i perceive him as...i mean it was even a RED ace, and he didn't check twice to make sure it didn't complete the flush. if he did this with a bare 9, he doesn't know whether he's vbetting or bluffing and will surely fold to a shove.

Hero's turn to act with ~$115 eff. left behind in a pot of $66???

fwiw, i've been playing these exact games at this exact casino quite a bit this summer and i've found that turning medium to even decent strength hands into bluffs very very common. it's like they linerally bet anything from T7s-76o, and think T7s is clearly a value bet, 76o is clearly a bluff and don't really care to define everything in between.

thoughts on shoving?
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Old 08-04-2010, 05:32 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 shove and expect him to make a real tight fold face up
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Flop ($16) comes

Villain quickly checks, which i expect him to do with much of his range, but he seems calm and unaffected by the flop. i slightly weigh his range away from two pair+ hands. i think for like 3 seconds and check back.
If you think he's weak on the flop, BET!

edit: what's the rake structure? With a California rake this is a clear pre-flop fold. At Harahs I'm still thinking fold.
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