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stinger

01-12-2010, 02:44 AM Post subject: Plugging Leak

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3-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Oct 2009

Location: Missouri

Posts: 57

I thing other then getting sucked out by loosing twice in the same night with AA and again with KK my biggest problem is betting.

I do play tight and sometimes I think I fold too much.

55 in a 1/2 NL game. I was BB and just called. Flop came A,K,7 everyone checked (I know I should have bet) Turn was a 3 and one player bet 20.00. One caller and I folded. The river was a 4S which would have given me the flush. The pot was won with a 2S. I had the 5S.

I cant put two sessions together. My wife plays also and it seems if I win she looses and vice versa.

Sunday night I won 400.00 she lost and Monday night I lost 200 and she woin 330.00 Our combined win rate for the month is 18.85 an hour and we are up for 2009 but we never seem to cash big. I dont have anything to really compair it with and I guess seeing some of the "winners" cashing out you really dont know.

As I said in my maniac I watch a player drow 800-900 and last night watch a player who had been at my table sunday drop 600.00
so I dont know.

I did loose twice with AA to trips and once with KK so with those kinds of beats it hard to win big

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idfk

01-12-2010, 12:15 PM

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Join Date: Nov 2009

Location: Melboure, Australia

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One thing I would like to offer you as some sound advice is to not focus as much on winning but focus more on not losing. This isn't a paradox so keep reading it until it makes sense.

Think about the hands that you play and that you just pitch. While you are at it think the hands that you have played that you couldn't just quite get away from. What happened?

As far as your betting and aggression is concerned, this is hard to comment on since I don't know where you are in your game. Suggestions that I can offer are to not be scared about losing what you have on the table and get yourself into the mindset that whatever money you have on the table to be not yours until you pick it up and bring it to the cashier.

Remember that it better to win a small pot than lose a big one. It is very important to apply this to every hand that you play. If you are worried about your opponent sucking out on you start taking the hand down when its yours.

When you're not protecting your hand, learn to extract as much value as you can from whoever you are playing against. Since every situation is different there is no set way of doing this. What you need to do here is pay attention to how your opponents play. Observe what their buying price is, what their shoving range is, how to make them fold etc. If you know that someone will passively call you to showdown with 2nd pair and small bet sizes then do that.

There is so much more to add to this, so I will give the other members a chance to reply.

Don't be so hard on yourself about how you played 55 in your example. There are actually several ways you could have played this and if set-mining was what your intentions were then its fine. If someone is betting and calling on an AK board (also double drawed from what you described) with you holding a small pocket pair it can be an easy fold. It can also be an easy call or 3bet depending on what your table is like and your image etc.

Hope some of that helps you out......

pokerfan

01-12-2010, 02:08 PM

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Join Date: Jun 2007

Location: NS, Canada

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You should definitely read "The elements of poker" by Tommy Angelo.Its not about how to play poker but how to become a poker player.You need to fix your mental problem before improving your technical part of poker.

drmcboy

01-12-2010, 03:41 PM

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DrButtInski
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Join Date: Aug 2004

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Your leak is being spectacularly results oriented. You should not have bet 55 OOP on a AK7 board and the only reason you think so is because everyone checked. A 5 high flush draw on that board is in no way a hand you should play ever.

Telling the same bad beat story twice in one post probably indicates your next leak, which is tilt.

I would read HOH. Elements of Poker is a good idea too but it sounds like you need something a little more ground floor.

baudib

01-12-2010, 10:59 PM

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stinger, the next thing you're going to say is 22 is better than AK because it's a made hand. I mean, seriously...you lose when your wife wins? that's useful.

there are betting hands and there are calling hands...55 on that board is a folding hand.

Playing big pots at small stakes.

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