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please don't do this part II
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LawDude
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04-17-2009, 03:40 PM
Post subject: please don't do this part II
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The river card makes a straight on the board (3-4-5-6-7, 4 suited), with 2 players left in the hand. Neither player bets.
At the showdown, player A shows his A6 offsuit and says "I have a straight".
Player B, not realizing the straight is on the board, throws his cards in the center of the table face up (he has QTo) and says "take it". However, the cards are nowhere near the muck.
The dealer says that because the cards speak, and he didn't muck his hand, the pot is chopped.
Now here's the "don't do this" part-- player A actually called the floor and got into a 3 minute argument about how player B intended to muck his cards and the dealer had no business putting those cards anywhere but the muck, and demanding that he win the full pot. (By the way, this was not a large pot.) The floor politely turned player B down but this held up the game several minutes.
Now, I realize there are some people who would say that technically, there's an argument that by throwing down his hand and saying "take it", the player was indeed intending to muck his hand. I suspect that some dealers and floormen might even treat it that way.
But that's not my point. My point is, here you have a situation where player B did not win the hand. His only chance to take down the whole pot and not chop is through a technicality. The pot isn't that big anyway. And yet player B held up the game for several minutes in order to plead his case that player A, who had the same hand he did, should lose half the pot because he didn't realize that there was a straight on the board.
The floor is there to protect you when you get screwed. And that happens in card rooms and casinos. Don't abuse the privilege by arguing silly technicalities in situations where there was no cheating and you didn't have a better hand.
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Fnord
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In a small stakes game, floor should recover the hand, chop the pot and lecture both players.
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yet player B held up the game for several minutes in order to plead his case that player A
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Floor should ask the dealer to deal him out, take him asided to discuss it then (politely tell him that he's a douchebag) allow him to come back in as a new player (or broken game.)
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