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thepokerdude
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12-06-2004, 07:35 PM
Post subject: new guy at the home game
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Straight
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: The Dude Abides
Posts: 170
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i play a regular home game with coworkers every other friday. we all know each other from work and sometimes people bring friends of theirs to play from outside work too. lately, i have been wanting to invite some strangers to play with us by posting on the internet that we play in the area. what do you guys think is the best way to integrate an unknown into your home game. some of the guys are cool with it, some are not. our rules are pretty lax, but if i did bring some unknowns in, i would make them more set, probably print some out and post them. anyway, what have you guys experienced as far as playing with people you don't generally know in your home games?
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SteveO
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Full House
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 755
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I don't like strangers. Stick to friends, co-workers and friends of co-workers. I like to have a reference from somebody I know before bringing theme into my home. You don't want a bunch of convicted felons crashing your friendly game.
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Send lawyers, guns and money - the sh*t has hit the fan!
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mike4066
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,943
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I think steveo's right on this one.
invite friends and friends of friends.. keep it small and simple.
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jokerindapack
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Flushing N.Y.
Posts: 92
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I agree as well. About a month back on our normal Thurs. game at the bar it was 6 of us there. For some reason it was kinda packed that night and there were a bunch of people we have never sen before and they wanted in. We told them no, because of past experiences (catch a hanger) and rules we set up and we told them.
1st rule: Unless you know one of us you can't come in.
2nd rule: If it's your first time at the table and you wanna leave let us know about 20 minutes in advance (While this might not be fair it had to be done because of cheaters we caught in the past) before you go.
3rd rule: No getting up to socialize in the bar, unless it's to get us drinks.
4th rule: Ignorance is not tolereated. If you have a question about a ruling or a hand that's one thing. If you have no idea about how the game is played then don't expect us to give you a tutorial.
O.K. maybe that 4th rule needs a bit of explanation. Guy we don't know about 4 months ago sits down. In 4 hands loses his buy-in ($10) and then rebuys. 7 hands later loses another $10 (9/10o vs A/A and the A trips on the turn) and proceeds to start a fight with our friend who won saying he's a lucky prick and blah, blah, blah you can't play cards you win on luck blah, blah, blah, ethnic slur towards his irish heritage, blah, blah blah,(the guy was wasted) and then got his ass kicked when he swung on our friend.
We have other rules as well, but these rules have been good guidelines for us and has helped keep our game strong.
Poker Dude I hope this helps more then discourage.
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cartilago77
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Straight
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Tijuana Donkey Show
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I have been playing in a home game for several months that I found posted on the internet. Core group of 10 guys and another 10-20 that rotate in, all who found out about the game from the internet. Never had any problems, heated arguements, etc. Maybe we have been lucky so far but my experience has been nothing but positive.
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SteveO
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Full House
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 755
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I'm sure u can find some very nice people with the community resources out there. The problem is those few bad apples. You get one stranger show up and ruin the game for everyone and then all your friends start skipping the game.
My only other advice is to introduce new people slowly so you get a feel for them. Don't have an "open house" but bring them in one or two at a time. If they fit in, great. If not, don't invite them back.
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Send lawyers, guns and money - the sh*t has hit the fan!
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thepokerdude
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Straight
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: The Dude Abides
Posts: 170
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thanks for all the replys. after talking it over with the rest of the core group of players, including the guy whose house we play at, we have decided to keep it to co-workers, friends, and friends of friends. i think that there are probably a lot of good honest players to be found at online home game sites but i don't want that one bad apple that get's too drunk and too pissed off to wreck my buddies house. if we find a neutral venue, then i might think about it more, but as long as we are at someone's house, i think i will stay away from the unknowns. what kind of neutral venues are there. i have everything i need for a 10 person tournament, table, chips, cards, all of it, but where can i play that isn't someone's house? just a questions, any suggestions?
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pokerfanatic
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: 6max limit tables
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This is how I would do it, if you want your game to explained but don't want cheaters crashing your game. This is what I would do... I personally follow these rules myself since I know a lot of card slights and the people I play with know I know them, I deal with the deck on the table, only pulling off the top card with one finger and my other hand holding the deck with the index finder and thumb, I deal the entire time doing this, I don't do anything fancy when I shuffle just a normal table riffle and I always offer a cut to the person to my right.
Also watch form strange movements people might make with there hand, especially if it's a closed hand (mucking cards). I suggest if you think someone is mucking a card to count the number of cards in the deck before each deal, but watch it because most cheats muck cards on there own deals, I have a habit of watching new players very closely when they handle the deck, if a cheat decides to cheat the game they will have to cheat multiple times leaving themselves more open to be caught. Also teach yourself on cheating moves/ slight of hand, this will help defend yourself against cheats, also learn the different ways to mark cards, some cheats like to use paper, so learn everything you can on cheating moves, to protect your self and the reputation of your home games.
I know I keep my homes games clean as possible…
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Sykedupp
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Flush
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
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anybody know what website i can find posted online home games at? i wanna see what that is like
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thepokerdude
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Straight
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: The Dude Abides
Posts: 170
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try:
http://www.homepokergames.com
then click on your state, might find something there.
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