- Poker Forum
- Poker Training
- Poker Rooms
- PokerStars
- Bovada
- Poker Room Reviews
- Poker Bonuses
- Casino Deposit Bonuses
- Online Casino Bonus Codes
- Best US Poker Sites
- USA State Poker Rooms
- No Deposit Bonus
- Exclusive Poker Bonuses
- Poker Bonus Codes
- Poker Networks
- Mac Poker Rooms
- Rakeback
- Poker Downloads
- PokerStars Download
- Bet365 Poker Download
- William Hill Poker Download
- Party Poker Download
- Ladbrokes Poker Download
- 888 Poker Download
- Bwin Poker Download
- Bovada Download
- Carbon Poker Download
- Americas Cardroom Download
- Cake Poker Download
- Intertops Poker Download
- Hand Converter
- Poker News
- Online Casino
- Bet365 Casino
- Bovada Casino
- Online Video Poker
- Online Slots
- Online Blackjack
- Online Sports Betting
- Live Dealer Casino
- Online Casino Reviews
- Casino Deposits
- Casino Deposit Bonus
- Casino Bonus Codes
- 3D Slots
- No Deposit Casinos
- Real Money Slots
- US Friendly Casinos
English
Deutsch
Español
Français
Italiano
Nederlands
Pусский
Svenska
Poker Forum |
Over 1,247,000 Posts! |
|
|
| |
| ||
|---|---|---|
|
|
LinkBack | Thread Tools | Display Modes |
| tomato paste carnage |
|
|||||||||||
|
I headed to Atlantic City for some shanannigans at the Tropicana with a few friends earlier on this week. Had my first experiences playing live poker in a casino setting, and I must say ... it has made me never want to play online poker ever,ever,ever again. It's just so much more enjoyable being able to see your opponents face-to-face, and being able to pick up on physical tells. Also, the 1/2 tables are very soft, which made the experience a whole lot sweeter. Anyone else out in FTRland have a more enjoyable time playing live? |
|||||||||||
|
Tilt is poker cancer. You catch it, you die.
|
||||||||||||
Play for FREE and practice your game at...Join the FTR Poker Forum to disable these banners and start posting! | ||||||||||||
| ChezJ |
|
|||||||||||
| I would say live >>> online, esp if you like $$$$ | |||||||||||
|
|
||||||||||||
| pokerfan |
|
|||||||||||
|
online game was just as easy as live a few years ago but its really getting tougher than ever these days cuz everyone and his dog has improved a lot from internet poker strategy forums, online coaching videos and other resources. The good news is that live poker is still like printing money without a big challenge to make lots of money compared to online imo. Personally, i prefer live 1/2NL cash on weekends  Just keep it in mind that you need different skill sets to crush live low limit holdem.
|
|||||||||||
|
|
||||||||||||
| ChezJ |
|
|||||||||||
| even back in the golden days, live was >> online. | |||||||||||
|
|
||||||||||||
| Dragon Slayer |
|
|||||||||||
| Yes i struggle at NL 50 on PS, But 1/2 in Vegas was like wtf. People literally pushing all their chips to you. But I like playing from home so meh even trade. I'll be playing on a cruise ship tomorrow, electronic table. I'll give ya an update later. | |||||||||||
|
|
||||||||||||
| StarGrinder |
|
|||||||||||
|
Live play can be REALLY boring. At least online, we have the ability to multi-table and push our hourly rate to the max, instead of plopping a larger chunk of our roll on one live table. Online players know we're way better than live players, in general. But live players think otherwise. Nothing against them, they're just ignorant to the fact that while they've been mainly donking around in home games and low buyin casino games, us online players have been busy putting in over hundreds of thousands of hands, discussing game theory in forums, and overall working much harder on our game. |
|||||||||||
|
||||||||||||
| FTR Bad Beat |
|
|||||||||||
| Of course you will make more money at Atlantic City. Lots of gamblers there. Less likely to find a gambler on online poker in high stakes unless he enjoys losing money. | |||||||||||
|
|
||||||||||||
| pokerfan |
|
|||||||||||
|
Quote:
|
|||||||||||
|
|
||||||||||||
| paratrooper99 |
|
|||||||||||
| The big problem with live play that I have is the moves that people make. People tend to slowplay sets and straights in live play where online players know how donkish that is. But because they do slowplay big hands, when they value bet or check raise the river, I am lost. | |||||||||||
|
|
||||||||||||
| RoyalFlush |
|
|||||||||||
| I find I actually make more money online since I can get far more hands in in the same amount of time. | |||||||||||
|
|
||||||||||||
| oskar |
|
|||||||||||
|
I can't imagine that anyone could make a decent hourly at 1/2 live after rake and expenses over a significant sample. I've played ~100h of live 1/2... and yes, it plays like microstakes online, but you play 20 hands an hour, you have to drive there, you pay for drinks, you tip the dealer and at the end of the day you pretty much break even. Or at least I did. But then 100h isn't much of a sample (2000 hands ffs). I'm pretty sure my 50NL online hourly is higher in the long run. I'd really like to see the books of a live player who has been keeping track over 100k hands of live 1/2. |
|||||||||||
|
The strengh of a hero is defined by the weakness of his villains.
|
||||||||||||
| Fieldsy |
|
|||||||||||
|
I used to go to the casino 2-3 times a week to play at the 1/2 nl tables. I'd probably spend on average about 4 hours and win about 300-400 on average. When I can start playing online again (waiting to deposit a nice bankroll), I feel like I should start at .10/.25. 1/2 online kicked my ass and I was able to hang around the .25/.50 tables with little effort. How much do you think a tight player could make at 1 table playing .10/.25 in an hr? I know a lot depends, but just for conversation purposes... |
|||||||||||
|
|
||||||||||||
| surviva316 |
|
|||||||||||
|
live 1/2nl live isn't>>>>50nl in terms of hourly like a lot of people tend to think. i've prolly put in like 50 hours of 1/2nl in the past six months which works out to a whole big whopping 1.5k hands or something retarded like that. also 1/2nl live is certainly softer than even like 25nl 6m online, but not NEARLY as softer as online players tend to think. obviously, no one ever ever ever knows how to play preflop at live games, whereas that's prolly an online player's most solid facet, but live regs are far less liekly to pay you off with single paired hands, quite a bit more likely to put pressure on with aggression with hands that have decent equity, more likely to spot the difference between a weak range and a strong range, able to pick up on tells, etc. that being said, this is when comparing to like 5 stakes below on online, and these "regs" make up a much smaller portion of the population, and once again they have really really bad leaks preflop, including not giving the value of position enough respect. i don't know which fish are worse (online or live), but live ones are harder to exploit because they fold a lot more |
|||||||||||
|
Quote:
|
||||||||||||
| pokerfan |
|
|||||||||||
|
Quote:
|
|||||||||||
|
|
||||||||||||
| pokerfan |
|
|||||||||||
|
Quote:
|
|||||||||||
|
|
||||||||||||
| oskar |
|
|||||||||||
|
Quote:
|
|||||||||||
|
The strengh of a hero is defined by the weakness of his villains.
|
||||||||||||
| Fieldsy |
|
|||||||||||
| is that $1 per hand? | |||||||||||
|
|
||||||||||||
| oskar |
|
|||||||||||
| lol, no. Hour. | |||||||||||
|
The strengh of a hero is defined by the weakness of his villains.
|
||||||||||||
| Micro2Macro |
|
|||||||||||
|
pretty sure you can make more $/hr grinding 50nl online than 1/2 live (multitabling ldo). it's too easy for live players to overestimate how much they are winning. |
|||||||||||
|
"Once we reach a certain level of mastery, we see there are higher levels and challenges. If we are disciplined and patient, we proceed. At each higher level, new pleasures and insights await us--ones not even suspected when we started out. We can take this as far as we want--in any human activity there is always a higher level to which we can aspire."
Check out my blog here! "You are a degenerate Gaam-balur" http://www.philgalfond.com/lets-make-some-changes/
|
||||||||||||
| Illfavor |
|
|||||||||||
| Live>online in every way but the hourly imo. | |||||||||||
|
|
||||||||||||
| Icanhastreebet |
|
|||||||||||
|
Quote:
|
|||||||||||
|
|
||||||||||||
| Fieldsy |
|
|||||||||||
|
Quote:
|
|||||||||||
|
|
||||||||||||
| pokerfan |
|
|||||||||||
|
Quote:
|
|||||||||||
|
|
||||||||||||
| pokerfan |
|
|||||||||||
|
Quote:
|
|||||||||||
|
|
||||||||||||
| surviva316 |
|
|||||||||||
|
Quote:
24 tabling 50nl FR online at a 2.5ptbb/100, however, (assuming that with starting and changing tables and stuff like that, you only get like 1,000 hands an hour, which is super friggin' conservative) is 25 $/hr...extremely achievable. 10 tabling 50nl 6m at 4ptbb/100 (assuming 750 hands/hr) is 30 $/hr...seeing as how this is less than my hourly over an 80k hand sample at 50nl 6m, i'd deem this achievable. the problem with live poker (and the good thing 'cause that's what keeps the fish in) is that it's impossible to be accurate/honest with your winrate because all of your hands aren't being auto-logged into a massive database that gives you a raw bottom-line of alllll of your winnings and losings. there's no way you could say "unequivocally looking at my 80k hand database that doesn't exclude a single hand i've ever played at the stake, i have _____ hourly" also lolsamplesize. playing every single hour from 10pm-4am on every single friday and every single saturday for a whole year is still only ~636 hrs of playing which is only like 19k hands. so even if you didn't so much as sit out to take a piss, much less take a vacation, much less miss a friday night to watch a movie with the Mrs.'s here or there, you're sample size for a whole year for "playing on the prime weekend hours is lol soft" is like meh. |
|||||||||||
|
Quote:
|
||||||||||||
| surviva316 |
|
|||||||||||
|
prolly shoulda put the lolsamplesize thing first because it's the best point i made. of course i don't doubt that i'm just playing at the worse/toughest times to play (and it's still laughably soft), seeing as how half of my experience is off of the big strips (ie not vegas or AC) and i've never played a single hand during the weekend, and most of it has been mid-afternoon -> very early evening (like 8 o clock). i'm sure if i played at a time when i never have to bluff, and i can just wait for aces and sets and get paid off, my variance would be a lot lower, and i'd have much less respect for live games |
|||||||||||
|
Quote:
|
||||||||||||
| Fieldsy |
|
|||||||||||
| Do you play the same way online to live? I'm just curious because I really want to learn how to get better at online play. Do you play very tight? | |||||||||||
|
|
||||||||||||
| Fieldsy |
|
|||||||||||
|
also, 30ptbb/100 for a 1/2 table would be 120 dollars an hr made right? If so than that does happen at times, but not much. I would say 50 dollars made an hr would be a good average. |
|||||||||||
|
|
||||||||||||
| surviva316 |
|
|||||||||||
|
30ptb/100 would be a $120 hourly if you were getting 100 hands an hour, which is a ridiculous estimate for a 10-handed live table. that's more than you should expect for any single 6m online table lol. i was going with the number 33.3 repeating hands per hour which is still generous. i would say wording it as "i play differently live than i do online" can trap a lot of players. it's still "i have a range, villain has a range, so i _____." the fact that the opponents have different ranges, though, and play them differently ends up making my actions different. it's not so much as "playing lolLAgg is the preferred way to play where as playing like ______ is better for online." it just so happens that when players fold single-paired hands to all ins live, where as no one folds top pair ever online, running sick bluffs is more frequently +EV. because no one EVERRRRRRR pfr's in live poker without like AQo+, 99+, open limping hands like 22 and 87s UTG is more frequently an ok play, whereas online you're never getting the price of just the BB 'cause someone's gonna raise, and less people are gonna limp so you're not as frequently getting massively multi-way pots. because players are much more cally preflop live, iso'ing with J7o is less often gonna be profitable because you're gonna end up in like a 5-way pot a lot of the time. folding AJo and KQo frequently is the nuts live (especially OOP) due to the strength of people's pfr ranges and people's decreased likelihood of giving 3 streets of action with TP2K. etc so i wouldn't say i play differently at all in the sense that it's still "this person will give me this many streets of value, so i should play my hand this way" or "i will have an assload of FE if i take this line, so i should play my hand this way" etc, though obviously if you were running a HUD on me i would prolly appear to be two completely different players hope that answers your quesiton |
|||||||||||
|
Quote:
|
||||||||||||
| Fieldsy |
|
|||||||||||
|
I got burned last weekend playing loose in AC. I got cocky with my play, and played crap like J7o. I sunk to the fishes level and became one myself. With 1/2 NL......a standard raise can be f'n 8x/10x BB. That is sick. With an 8x raise, you could get 3 callers. 10x or more you will be heads up or 3 way. |
|||||||||||
|
|
||||||||||||
| surviva316 |
|
|||||||||||
| well maybe the first rule of thumb with playing laggy postflop is that it really really helps to play strong ranges in position preflop. | |||||||||||
|
Quote:
|
||||||||||||
| Fieldsy |
|
|||||||||||
|
what does laggy postflop mean? Also, do you think online players play as loose as live players? Compare 1/2 live to .25/.50 NL online |
|||||||||||
|
|
||||||||||||
| 6spark6 |
|
|||||||||||
|
Quote:
LAGG= Loose agressive TAGG=Tight agressive So, they play very loosely and aggressively after the flop has come down. I.E. Probably c-bet (continuation bet) quite a bit, and may even come over the top of you with nothing, if you raise them. Truth is, it always depends on the player. I know live players that won't play aj in any position with the exception of them being in the blinds and the pot remains unraised. Most though, think aj is the NUTS. It's pretty commonly accepted that you play slightly tighter online, and slightly looser live due to the disparity in the number of hands you see, especially in tournaments (If you have that bankroll sucking addiction). Hope that helps. |
|||||||||||
|
|
||||||||||||
| surviva316 |
|
|||||||||||
|
well that's not completely true. live players play waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay tigher postflop. you never see a player who calls a cbet with ATC live, whereas that type of player gets his own color coding in your online notes. again, as i've mentioned before, live regs don't put in 3 streets worth of money with single pair hands, whereas people will stack off with ridiculous crap far more constantly online. live players are probably looser preflop than online players, but a lot of that is due to the huge difference in reg:fish ratio. |
|||||||||||
|
Quote:
|
||||||||||||
| Micro2Macro |
|
|||||||||||
|
[5:44:17 PM] Ryan Baller: what do you think a 1/2 hourly could be? [5:44:19 PM] Ryan Baller: over long run [5:44:30 PM] Ryan Baller: live that is [5:44:31 PM] Wayne Parsons: Iunno [5:44:33 PM] Wayne Parsons: oh [5:44:34 PM] Wayne Parsons: rofl [5:44:35 PM] Ryan Baller: haha [5:44:38 PM] Wayne Parsons: not 40$ [5:44:40 PM] Ryan Baller: yea [5:44:41 PM] Ryan Baller: like [5:44:42 PM] Ryan Baller: u only get [5:44:42 PM] Wayne Parsons: like ppl were saying in that thread [5:44:44 PM] Ryan Baller: 30hands an our [5:44:45 PM] Ryan Baller: ... [5:44:46 PM] Ryan Baller: 30 fucking hands [5:44:47 PM] Ryan Baller: and [5:44:51 PM] Ryan Baller: after tips and rake [5:44:56 PM] Ryan Baller: and rake is higher live [5:44:58 PM] Wayne Parsons: maybe 20 w/ no tips and rake [5:45:01 PM] Wayne Parsons: that would be like [5:45:02 PM] Ryan Baller: yea [5:45:04 PM] Ryan Baller: theres no fucking way [5:45:09 PM] Wayne Parsons: 20$/30hands [5:45:14 PM] Wayne Parsons: so like 30ptbb/100 [5:45:15 PM] Wayne Parsons: luhlz [5:45:19 PM] Ryan Baller: these guys are all so dellusional inthe live forum [5:45:25 PM] Wayne Parsons: 30ptbb/100 [5:45:25 PM] Ryan Baller: they think you can't make more playing 50nl online [5:45:25 PM] Wayne Parsons: ! [5:45:39 PM] Ryan Baller: you can make $40/hour+ playing 50nl online [5:45:49 PM] Ryan Baller: depending on # of tables/your edge etc [5:46:20 PM] Ryan Baller: pretty sure 24 tabling is somewhere near $20/hr alone in rakeback [5:46:32 PM] Wayne Parsons: something like that [5:46:38 PM] Ryan Baller: yea [5:46:42 PM] Ryan Baller: i mean that may be overestimated [5:46:47 PM] Ryan Baller: ive done the math before [5:46:54 PM] Ryan Baller: too lazy now ldo [5:47:12 PM] Ryan Baller: but its just obvious you cannot make a living playing 1/2 ilve [5:47:26 PM] Ryan Baller: live players are always like 'oh yeah i wina few hundred a night' [5:47:37 PM] Ryan Baller: makes people who ask 'so how much did you lose' look smart [5:47:48 PM] Wayne Parsons: lol |
|||||||||||
|
"Once we reach a certain level of mastery, we see there are higher levels and challenges. If we are disciplined and patient, we proceed. At each higher level, new pleasures and insights await us--ones not even suspected when we started out. We can take this as far as we want--in any human activity there is always a higher level to which we can aspire."
Check out my blog here! "You are a degenerate Gaam-balur" http://www.philgalfond.com/lets-make-some-changes/
|
||||||||||||
| Micro2Macro |
|
|||||||||||
|
1200 hands/hour at 50nl at a Supernova rate will net you about $14 worth of fpps. This does not include the additional milestone bonuses which can be allocated to your hourly. If your win rate is 2.5ptbb/100 at 50nl, which is certainly sustainable given how bad everyone there, 1200 hands/hour at this rate works out to $30/hour. $30+$14 = $44/hour. Now can we make this much at 1/2 live? let's say you earn 10ptbb/100 at 1/2 live. You get 33 hands an hour because I am generous and it makes the math easier. Okay cool bro you make $40/100 hands. Print money! Oh wait, you earn a whopping $13.20 an hour and we aren't even tips yet. if you want to make a decent hourly live, you simply need to play higher. You guys who say you make a few hundred a night playing 1/2 simply forget the times you lost a few hundred. It's too easy to not keep track when you don't have a graph telling you your results in front of your face. And now to respond to most of this thread: Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
 Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
/thread. |
|||||||||||
|
"Once we reach a certain level of mastery, we see there are higher levels and challenges. If we are disciplined and patient, we proceed. At each higher level, new pleasures and insights await us--ones not even suspected when we started out. We can take this as far as we want--in any human activity there is always a higher level to which we can aspire."
Check out my blog here! "You are a degenerate Gaam-balur" http://www.philgalfond.com/lets-make-some-changes/
|
||||||||||||
| oskar |
|
|||||||||||
|
Quote:
There's maybe half a dozen players who make $40+ at 50NL over 500k+ hands. I've made $50/h + at 50NL over 100k, 200k hand samples... but if I'm being honest and look at the whole thing it's more like $15-20 - I don't know exactly cuz I lost my database but it's not very sexy. But it's a BS discussion anyway. Post some hands instead. Who cares about your stupid hourly. Shut up and play. I still maintain that you might be able to maintain a profit at 1/2 live, but you cannot play it professionally. |
|||||||||||
|
The strengh of a hero is defined by the weakness of his villains.
|
||||||||||||
| Micro2Macro |
|
|||||||||||
|
yeah, that hourly is probably overstated. cut the 30 in half and that is certainly doable. 30/hr it is. don't forget the money you are making from fpps+milestones |
|||||||||||
|
"Once we reach a certain level of mastery, we see there are higher levels and challenges. If we are disciplined and patient, we proceed. At each higher level, new pleasures and insights await us--ones not even suspected when we started out. We can take this as far as we want--in any human activity there is always a higher level to which we can aspire."
Check out my blog here! "You are a degenerate Gaam-balur" http://www.philgalfond.com/lets-make-some-changes/
|
||||||||||||
| oskar |
|
|||||||||||
|
30/h is doable if you're on top of the pile. At which point you should probably move up, or cash out and buy something stupid and rebuild. The average winning player makes significantly less tho. |
|||||||||||
|
The strengh of a hero is defined by the weakness of his villains.
|
||||||||||||
| Micro2Macro |
|
|||||||||||
| thats 1.25ptbb which even some of the dumbest 50nl regs are pulling. | |||||||||||
|
"Once we reach a certain level of mastery, we see there are higher levels and challenges. If we are disciplined and patient, we proceed. At each higher level, new pleasures and insights await us--ones not even suspected when we started out. We can take this as far as we want--in any human activity there is always a higher level to which we can aspire."
Check out my blog here! "You are a degenerate Gaam-balur" http://www.philgalfond.com/lets-make-some-changes/
|
||||||||||||
| oskar |
|
|||||||||||
|
At 400 to 600 hands - which is what most regs will average... I mean really average... not at their peak but actual hands played from the moment they fired up PS to the last table closing including breaks... that's not even close to $30/h Even at 1000hands/h your're not getting there with 1.25 ptbb. idk what you're talking about... and 1000h/h is absolutely ridiculous unless you're playing rush or some shortstack strategy. idk if I can return a profit playing that many tables, and I very much doubt that the dumbest regs can. You need more than 20 tables for that for sure. Actually I'm pretty damn sure I'd be loosing money with more than 20 tables. |
|||||||||||
|
The strengh of a hero is defined by the weakness of his villains.
|
||||||||||||
| Micro2Macro |
|
|||||||||||
|
oskar wtf are you talking about there are a number of players 24 tabling 100nl for >2ptbb surely 1.25ptbb is doable 20 tabling at 50 jesus christ I just said $15/hour mass tabling 50nl is doable WITHOUT rakeback. rakeback is over $15/hour if you include milestones etc on stars. therefore $30/hour is doable at 50nl |
|||||||||||
|
"Once we reach a certain level of mastery, we see there are higher levels and challenges. If we are disciplined and patient, we proceed. At each higher level, new pleasures and insights await us--ones not even suspected when we started out. We can take this as far as we want--in any human activity there is always a higher level to which we can aspire."
Check out my blog here! "You are a degenerate Gaam-balur" http://www.philgalfond.com/lets-make-some-changes/
|
||||||||||||
| Micro2Macro |
|
|||||||||||
| and if you can't beat $50nl for $30/hr online you sure as hell can't beat live for $13.20 | |||||||||||
|
"Once we reach a certain level of mastery, we see there are higher levels and challenges. If we are disciplined and patient, we proceed. At each higher level, new pleasures and insights await us--ones not even suspected when we started out. We can take this as far as we want--in any human activity there is always a higher level to which we can aspire."
Check out my blog here! "You are a degenerate Gaam-balur" http://www.philgalfond.com/lets-make-some-changes/
|
||||||||||||
| oskar |
|
|||||||||||
|
I don't believe it until I see stats. I doubt more than a handful of players can average 1000+ hands. I cannot. Or at least it would be less profitable than with what I average now which is 700/hour and that's playing 16 tables at the peak of my sessions. Most people struggle with more than 8 tables. You might be able to push the limit for a week or a month. But if you can keep that rate up over a year you're an absolute animal... it's certainly not a realistic winrate for joe average who has a job and kids and plays poker in his free time. |
|||||||||||
|
The strengh of a hero is defined by the weakness of his villains.
|
||||||||||||
| Micro2Macro |
|
|||||||||||
| Oscar at 800 hands an hour and a better win rate than playing 1000 50nl still is going to be more profitable for a good player. That is the point and there's really not much else to say. | |||||||||||
|
"Once we reach a certain level of mastery, we see there are higher levels and challenges. If we are disciplined and patient, we proceed. At each higher level, new pleasures and insights await us--ones not even suspected when we started out. We can take this as far as we want--in any human activity there is always a higher level to which we can aspire."
Check out my blog here! "You are a degenerate Gaam-balur" http://www.philgalfond.com/lets-make-some-changes/
|
||||||||||||
| oskar |
|
|||||||||||
|
Of course. I was just pointing out that you're padding the numbers as well. That and I was bored because I was just 6 tabling after a long day... effectively bringing down my hourly as well as hands played. I could not play at all and look at nicer numbers at the end of the year, but what's the point. |
|||||||||||
|
The strengh of a hero is defined by the weakness of his villains.
|
||||||||||||
| Micro2Macro |
|
|||||||||||
|
Quote:
and its not hard to find >20 good tables at most times given how large the player pool is at this stake. |
|||||||||||
|
"Once we reach a certain level of mastery, we see there are higher levels and challenges. If we are disciplined and patient, we proceed. At each higher level, new pleasures and insights await us--ones not even suspected when we started out. We can take this as far as we want--in any human activity there is always a higher level to which we can aspire."
Check out my blog here! "You are a degenerate Gaam-balur" http://www.philgalfond.com/lets-make-some-changes/
|
||||||||||||
| daven |
|
|||||||||||
|
Quote:
|
|||||||||||
|
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat please read: http://www.philgalfond.com/lets-make-some-changes/
|
||||||||||||
| oskar |
|
|||||||||||
|
m2m I'll ship you a dollar for every player you can find that A: earns 2.5ptbb+, B: playes 20+ tables consistently. Over a reasonable sample without cherry picking some prop bet period. A HEM sessions tab screenshot or pt pendant will do. ^^ is the only one around here that I wouldn't bet against doing that. It's hugely unrealistic for most regs. 2.5ptbb 12 tabling... EZ game... 20 tabling breaking even... EZ game. Both: you're talking shit. |
|||||||||||
|
The strengh of a hero is defined by the weakness of his villains.
|
||||||||||||
| surviva316 |
|
|||||||||||
|
or you could just play lolLAggmax at 5.5ptbb/100, putting in just like 600 hands/hour and get 30 $/hr before rakeback and milestones.... i def ran hot over the first half of the sample, but 80k hands is much more legitimate than any sample you're gonna get for "peak weekend hours" single tabling live for any less than 10 years |
|||||||||||
|
Quote:
|
||||||||||||
 |
| Latest Poker News | |
| KoRnholio |
05-26-2012, 03:08 PM Australia Legalized Online Poker coming up in next 6 to 12 Months
|
| According to an email sent out by Mark Bryan, a gaming analyst at Merrill Lynch, the Australian government plans to legalize online poker sometime in the next six to 12 months. This move will coincide ... | |
«
Previous Thread
|
Next Thread
»
| Thread Tools | |
| Display Modes | |
Linear Mode
|
|
All times are GMT. The time now is 03:38 PM.
|
|
All content © FlopTurnRiver.com |
Advertising |
Partners |
Testimonials |
T&C |
Contact Us |
FTR News & Press |
Site Map |
Search FTR
Full Tilt | Titan Poker | UltimateBet | Poker Stars | Ladbrokes Bonus | Sportsbook | Cake Poker Play Texas Holdem Online, Online Texas Holdem Strategy, & Poker Forum |
 |
| This is not a gambling website. |
