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sk8r_daniel
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03-28-2009, 12:49 AM
Post subject: KK against tough player
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1-2 live game
2 limps, Tough player(Rob) raises to 8. Has about $500
1 caller. (has about $300)
I have KK in late position and raise to $30 (stack=~380)
Everyone else folds except for Rob and the other guy.
Flop (~$95) Js 8d 3d
check,check, I bet $60
Rob calls $60 other dude folds
Turn Jc (~210)
And Rob shoves in for the rest of my stack and I am sitting there pondering.....
A little information on Rob. Rob usually plays 2-5, and is a very experienced player, great at hand reading, but also likes to gamble. The money means very little to him and is quite capable of pulling some imaginative bluffs. He has seen me make a couple of hero calls in the past although I don't know if he remembers.
If he actually had a jack, why would he do this? Does he expect me to call? He knows I have an overpair, and I know that he knows this.
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bikes
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Do you have the Kd? This is really important
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"the world def needs more bikeses"
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sk8r_daniel
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No I had 2 black kings
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bikes
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a hot damn mess
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Getting 2:1 makes this a snap imo especially without the Kd.
Without the Kd there are many more hands he can be semi-bluffing AI on the turn with. KQdd AKdd. He shouldnt really have a J here unless it's quads and if he does have jx then hes no were near as good as you think he is. I'd be more concerned about AA than Jx.
But anyways like I said I think hes semibluffing or turning TT into a bluff here. If he had a solid made hand like Jx or AA I think he should crai on the turn a very large % of the time to get you to commit to the pot.
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"the world def needs more bikeses"
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sk8r_daniel
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Like I said, he is a gambler, he knows how to play the game but he makes some marginal preflop calls just for fun. But he is always putting people on hands and is usually right. It wouldnt suprise me if he called my raise with anything that had potential to crack me.
I am not worried about AA AT ALL, since he would have raised much more preflop. His 8 dollar raise indicates a medium strength hand. You have to realise that everyone else at the table is a complete moron and doesn't pick up on this.
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sk8r_daniel
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I think you are right about if he had a jack he would check to me again.
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Fnord
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Bet sizing is a little small, but that's par for the course in live poker.
Turn is a feel decision, I lean towards a call but I could go either way.
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sk8r_daniel
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Okay, its good to know that its not a 'cut and dry' situation.
I pansied out and folded btw.
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