It's a fold but then he started to blink

Doesn't Caro say uncontrolled blinking is usually a release of tension/huge hand?

Re: the mis-stated stack size/correction talk, that also seems to be genuine excitement rather than him trying to make you fold.

I call because I play bad.

Fnord what do you make of the physical/verbal tells here?

if anything i'm more inclined to think this is an indication of strength than the opposite. i fold here

I don't know what to think to be honest.

Didn't see the flush the first time I skimmed the post. I guess I could feel good about putting him on a very strongly played flush or better and fold. Without the flush I'm really having a hard time folding.

I just don't like to fold strong hands in pre-flop built pots and I probably should be a bit better at it.

I found the fact that he bet $110 on the turn to be semi-interesting.

Yeah, so, I really wanted to fold, but the blinking gave me pause. I think we've all been in situations where someone shoves their obvious flush against your very obvious good hand. And you are familiar with the body language they have. Nothing specific, but he didn't seem to be vibing confidence. I kept thinking about the blinking and the more I thought about it, the more I wanted to call.

After about 5 minutes I decided to call and he said, "Good call," and mucked. Probably the most blatant case of a clear fold being turned to a call for me. I'm not a proponent of wearing sunglasses, but if he had been I would have 100% folded.

Well done; I love hands like this where the fact that you're playing live makes for an entirely different outcome. Another thing I look for is a visible carotid pulse as a low-confidence tell. (Or more likely when there is a lack of a visible carotid pulse after a big bet on the river I tend to believe their story.) Sometimes you can seem them blinking through the sunglasses, too, especially if you're in seats 2 or 3 and they're in the middle of the table so you can kind of see across their face behind the glasses.

i don't like folding

The thing is that nervousness =/= bluff.

Nervousness usually just means that this hand means a lot to villain. This could be because he's a short-stacking nit who's not used to playing pots this big. It could be because he has a monster, and "I swear to fucking god if I blow it with the nuts again, I'm gonna go straight home and beat my wife." It could be that he's been thinking the whole hand that he has some massive soul read bluff and now that he's acting on it he's like, "oh shit, is he already committed? I thought I had more chips? Oh shit, I guess he COULD have had KJ, and now the flush doesn't scare him anymore! OH SHIT CAN HE TELL I"M NERVOUS!!!!" Etc.

I think the best time that nervousness is a tell is 1) When the pot is small. The only reason someone's nervous in a small pot is because the hand means a lot to them already, which of course usually means they have a monster (it can logically also mean that they plan on running a huge bluff already, but lol at these type of players charting out big bluffs several streets in advance) or 2) it's clearly a hollywood.

Obviously the pot's already big, and though the blinking is very easy to hollywood, blurting stuff out and saying stuff in a nervous voice that's believable would take mad skillz.

This doesn't mean that your tell doesn't mean something, it's just that it's gonna take some analytical thinking (what hands would he be nervous about, and which would he not think much about) moreso than just "lol him being nervous always means _______ here."

I know I didn't answer your question, but if I'm not mistaken this thread is kind of a place to discuss what this sort of tell can mean.

In the hand itself, I'm much more concerned about the call turn for 110 and fold river to 190 line. Though we have different outs against different hands, we more or less have 3 outs to scoop and 3 more outs to chop. That's a 7% chance of winning the pot outright, and there isn't much money left, so if we think we're beat on the turn than we should just fold on the turn.

I don't think his river shove strengthens his range so much that we're like "well, hell, we were ahead on the turn but now he's shoving his last bit of stack!" I mean, there isn't a ton of money left, and he could just be shoving because he has a hand with strong absolute strength without really knowing if better's folding or worse is calling because he doesn't feel like c/f'ing his strong hand. Likewise, he could be just as likely to check the nuts.

So I think call turn/fold river's bad. OTT I'd either shove, call twice or just fold.