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05-31-2009, 03:24 PM
Post subject: i have top two but villian fires big again
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1-2 FR live games. $260 effective stack. Villian is semi-loose and often raises lots of hands ip. Also, he's capable of making some weird play ( like he 3 bet big on BT with 92s vs UTG opener) and a few cheap bluffs here and there.
2 limpers, villain limped on HJ position. Hero had :Kc: :Td: on BT and raised to $15, 1 folds, 1 limper called, villain called.
flop($48) : :Kh:   limper checked, villian donked $25, hero called, limper folds.
turn($98): :Th: villian bet $50, hero raises, flat or fold at this point ?
how do you think about my play preflop and flop ?
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yourfather
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This is a gross spot, your either WA/WB. It feels like 22/44 alot. I think I call and soul read river. You think he'd ever take this line with Kx? Is he one of those guys who limps aces and goes nuts postflop cuz the board got scary?
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Fnord
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I'd ship it in, although I can see merit in a flat if you can read him right on the river.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by yourfather
It feels like 22/44 alot.
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It feels like Kx or a flush draw a lot to me. That's why it's such a sick turn card. Live players, particuarly tricky ones, are going to be limping too wide of a range to give them credit for sets so easily.
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yourfather
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Originally Posted by Fnord
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Originally Posted by yourfather
It feels like 22/44 alot.
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It feels like Kx or a flush draw a lot to me. That's why it's such a sick turn card. Live players, particuarly tricky ones, are going to be limping too wide of a range to give them credit for sets so easily. |
I think it fells like 22/44 as played but obv that it could be other shit quite a bit. I think the guy opens with like K10+ from the hijack most of the time what it sounds like, and I don't see him limp/calling K2, K4 or 24 so I don't understand why he would play K w a kicker <10 like this. Flush draw is def. possible as well. Or a big hand that he is trying to get tricky with but i doubt it.
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Originally Posted by yourfather
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Originally Posted by Fnord
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Originally Posted by yourfather
It feels like 22/44 alot.
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It feels like Kx or a flush draw a lot to me. That's why it's such a sick turn card. Live players, particuarly tricky ones, are going to be limping too wide of a range to give them credit for sets so easily. |
I think it fells like 22/44 as played but obv that it could be other shit quite a bit. I think the guy opens with like K10+ from the hijack most of the time what it sounds like, and I don't see him limp/calling K2, K4 or 24 so I don't understand why he would play K w a kicker <10 like this. Flush draw is def. possible as well. Or a big hand that he is trying to get tricky with but i doubt it. |
live players suck a whole lot 
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pokerfan
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I'd ship it in, although I can see merit in a flat if you can read him right on the river.
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great. I flat called and he checked on river blank card. Obviously i dont want to check down after he showed weakness :P
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I say ship it in on the turn, why would he lead out here with the flush? your good I think. I think he may have a hand like King rag or maybe even a lower two pair.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by yourfather
I think it fells like 22/44 as played but obv that it could be other shit quite a bit. I think the guy opens with like K10+ from the hijack most of the time what it sounds like, and I don't see him limp/calling K2, K4 or 24 so I don't understand why he would play K w a kicker <10 like this. Flush draw is def. possible as well. Or a big hand that he is trying to get tricky with but i doubt it.
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Have you played in these games?
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yourfather
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Originally Posted by yourfather
I think it fells like 22/44 as played but obv that it could be other shit quite a bit. I think the guy opens with like K10+ from the hijack most of the time what it sounds like, and I don't see him limp/calling K2, K4 or 24 so I don't understand why he would play K w a kicker <10 like this. Flush draw is def. possible as well. Or a big hand that he is trying to get tricky with but i doubt it.
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I play 1/2 and 2/5 live a decent amount. I was going on what op said and I agree that there is a larger random shit/bluff in his range. Maybe I am thinking too much.
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Fnord
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You're giving him waayyy too tight of a range.
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Fnord
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I'd ship it in, although I can see merit in a flat if you can read him right on the river.
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great. I flat called and he checked on river blank card. Obviously i dont want to check down after he showed weakness :P |
Bet at least $75, probably around $100 if something like $90 won't look too funny. Don't go all-in unless he's on tilt becuase you won't get called by less than a flush nearly as often.
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