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pokerfan
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04-07-2009, 04:32 PM
Post subject: how many mistakes hero made in this hand?
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1-2 live in my local casino. The table is extremely loose and passive but some guys tend to fold their weak hands when you put pressure on them.
a bunch of limpers, hero raised to $15 with AKo from HJ. 5 limp callers.
flop : Kd Td Th donator ($115) checked, gamb00l( $185) bet $25, fold , fold, hero called, donator called.
turn is a 3h donator bet $20, gamb00l called, hero raised to $100, donator called off all his chips, gamb00l gave a painful look, went into the tank and finally called also.
river is 6h gamb00l insta shoved his last $60, hero had huge confidence in his solid read and folded.
3 way all-in pot.
donator: KQ
gamb00l: 8h9h
gamb00l laughed and took down the big pot !!! and said he called with good pot odds and made a crazy move against a tight player.
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sk8r_daniel
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What is your interpretation of donk's donk lead on the turn? This looks like a sucker bet with a Ten.
I don't hate flop call, since if you raise you are basically commiting yourself to the pot, and are basically hoping to get a call from KQ. Its also unlikely to get donk off of a draw even if you raise, especially since the pot is getting pretty large. (If donk calls and a diamond, ace or 9 pop up then you can get away from the hand with minimal cost)
I would say that I don't like your raise on the turn, but it really depends on what the donk lead means. I think that multiway against donks in this situation i would rather check call and look for another brick on the river.
And... you can't really fold the river once your in that far.
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pokerfan
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by sk8r_daniel
What is your interpretation of donk's donk lead on the turn? This looks like a sucker bet with a Ten.
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im not hero. this donk lead on the turn often sounds like a weak holding.
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It's not played that badly. If hero is going to be raising postflop - he needs to be doing it on the flop where the money isn't deep enough yet to be committed.
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Fnord
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Shove turn.
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pokerfan
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Shove turn.
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agree. Given their weak donk bet & call on this blank turn, we must know that we are ahead of their range and that at least one of these guys is FOS. So we just shove & make their life very difficult 
Fnord, do you mind just flat calling gamb00l's donk bet on the flop?
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Azazel
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So why wouldn't we reraise flop here? Seems like we are just inviting QJ or diamond draws in for excellent value.
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Fnord
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Taking one off isn't that terrible of a line. Once we get a clean turn I would just get the money in and pay off the Ten.
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oskar
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After you call the flop, I think you really need to shovel the turn.
Small bets by donks are usually "please don't raise, please don't raise" - bets... or they're not aware of how much money is in the pot 
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