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ShadySully
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11-04-2004, 12:00 AM
Post subject: How long do your Tourney's last?
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: The Felt
Posts: 51
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I host home tourney's all the time. Usually 7-10 players. Start with 2000 in chips and they usually last about 3-6 hours.
Recently my group of poker buddies have merged with another group of guys who also play weekly tourneys.
This other group plays with a very aggressive blind structure. Their tourneys usually last only 1-3 hours. The guy who hosts figures most of these tourneys last 30-50 hands. They'll play 2 or 3 tourney's a night.
My feeling is that this is way too short! How many online tourneys have you played where you were able to eliminate 10 guys in 30 hands? That's like a guy going out every 3 hands on average. It just seems like a big crapshoot to me. Like how much poker are you really playing in that short of time? I like to play tight and hell there are times when I'll fold 20 hands in a row!
To me a poker tourney is something like a game of Risk. It takes a long time to play and there should be ample time to rise and fall and come back to rise again and again.
Some of the guys I regularly play with seem to think this aggressive structure is the way to go. What do you all think?
So the question is........How long do your tourneys last? Time? Number of Hands?
Thanks.
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elanto
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Full House
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,117
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the tourney i host last about 3-4 hours, this way youll get a good player to win most of the time. Very aggresive blinds just make the tourney a crapshoot, like you said and it isnt any fun. Maybe your friends wantto play like that because they know that a quick tournament like that allows more luck than skill giving them a higher chance to win. just my 2 cents
-anto
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dar103
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Posts: 85
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The tournaments I host and/or play in are variations on the Home Poker Tourney structure. The length usually runs 4-5 hours. This gives plenty of time for all players to get action for their buyin in the early rounds, while still allowing the skilled players time to exploit weaknesses in the others.
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stevedonel
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Vegas
Posts: 617
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When I initially started playing in home tourneys, we used a fast structure. A 10 player tourney would normally last 1-1.5 hours, we'd normally play 3 a night. I'd say the player that was playing best that night, won 90% of the time. Consequently, I am the only one in the group to have ever won all 3 tourneys in one night. We've started doing bigger, longer tourneys now though, 30-40 players taking about 5-6 hours. But these days we play more cash games.
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Is that guy still part of the forum??
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thepokerdude
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Straight
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: The Dude Abides
Posts: 170
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i have to agree with you, there is very little skill involved when the tourney's are that short. just kind of luck of the draw so to speak. what is it that they say in rounders? your goal is to win one big hand an hour, get in when you have it and protect it when you don't. granted, that's a little conservative and he is talking about ring games, but i think it's a good thing to keep in mind. i mean, half of the game to me is knowing when it's ok to fold the second best hand. in my home games, there are usually 10 of us, 2000 tourney chip buy in, and a semi aggressive blind structure and it will take us anywhere from 3 to 6 hours to finish. we always say we'll have a second one if the first is over quickly, but it never is. and the best players usually prevail, which leads me to agree with elanto when he says that maybe they want luck to play more of a factor so they could actually win. i say, tell them to go play blackjack, this is poker.
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"But they were suited?!?! You idiot!!"
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maxxscam
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Full House
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 734
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we play 15-25 people and its a limit tourney until 5 players left then its no limit,
blinds double e very 15 minutes
rebuys for first hour if under 200 chips or busted,
add on at end of first hour of 1000 chips for 20$
start with 2200 chips for 60$ or 1000 chips for 35$
i have played in 10 tourneys now and have placed in top 4 8/10 times
tourney usually lasts around 3 hours total.
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johnnyawe
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 1,064
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I had to dig this up..
Same thing is happening to me. A couple players in my game started playing in some other games. The other games play like 3 tourneys in 1 night, with each tourney lasting maybe 1.5 hours or less, with like 7-12 people playing.
I haven't had a game in a while, but now these 2 guys are telling me that this is the funnest thing in the universe and I need to do the same thing.
Honestly, I can't imagine that they could get more than 30-40 hands in. A 30 hand tournament? That just seems silly to me. I try to explain to them that this takes the skill out of the game, but they don't listen. The one guy is convinced that poker is pure luck anyways, so of course he is beyond convincing. I gues I'll just have to learn to put up with his constant annoying suggestions.
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SteveA
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 27
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I usually do two tourney's a night and they each last a minimum of 3 hours.
Blinds start out slow, but when it gets down to when all players are in the money with roughly equal stacks, I jack the blinds up pretty high to encourage action.
I have 5-7 players, and we use two decks so we get a lot of hands in.
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SteveA
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