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jmrogers7
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06-22-2004, 06:38 PM
Post subject: Home game this weekend
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Full House
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Well, I have a buddy who is hosting a hold 'em game this weekend. He likes limit better than NL so he is making it a limit game. Also, it isn't going to be a tournament, it's going to be a cash game. $50 buy-in.
So, it looks like we'll have 10 peeps, all sitting down with $50. He is making it a $1/$2 ($.50/$1 blinds) game. Now, in addition, he is going to have everyone ante in $.25 each hand. I'm not a big fan of the ante but he feels that it will induce much more action into the pot because he doesn't feel that the $1.50 for the blinds is enough action to start each hand. Ugh.
Well, it is his game. So, I guess he can make up whatever rules he wants to. Personally, I see this being a short night for the most part. A couple times around the table and anyone not getting any descent cards is going to bust. Also, I think that this ante is going to induce more than the ordinary number of people chasing their draws.
I'm not real enthused about the setup, but I haven't played in a live game in a couple months so I'm craving the action. Oh well. I'll let you all know how I do over the weekend.
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SpecOps
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Bah...ante....
I am not a big fan of the ante in Hold-em. It seems to really degrade the play, especially if the blinds increase too. Too many chasers. Limit poker, especially, the ante just makes for rougher times for those of us that play tighter than the average fish.
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SteveO
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I feel your pain. I played in my cousin's home game. The only thing resembling poker was they played with 52 cards. It was dealer's choice and they played mostly 5 card draw and 7 card stud with all kinds of wild cards, low in the hole is wild etc. They did not know how to play hold em. I attempted to introduce holdem and they insisted on an ante and nobody folded anything. It was just drawing cards (at least nothing was wild!). We only made 2 orbits and went back to dealer's choice.
The good news was that I made about $90. I actually had to tell one dude to stfu. I was folding a lot of hands and he starts trying to give me poker lessons. I tried to explain to him that I had just made the final table in a tournament with over 700 people the night before so I didn't think I needed his help.
The only positive in the wild cards was that it really helps your skills with reading hands. The bad news is that you need to make a straight flush or four of a kind to win. My best hand of the night was taking down a monster pot with 5 Aces against 5 kings.
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wlu_lax6
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07-02-2004, 10:18 AM
Post subject: Richest Franchise in Sport
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Saw that this morning. I've said it before....for all you want to talk about United and their international profile http://www.buy-screen-savers.narod.ru/, they really seem to do business the right way. I'm interested to see just how much Kenyon had to do with these results, so next year will be interesting.
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Toasty
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07-02-2004, 10:41 AM
Post subject: Re: Richest Franchise in Sport
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4-of-a-Kind
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Originally Posted by wlu_lax6
Saw that this morning. I've said it before....for all you want to talk about United and their international profile http://www.buy-screen-savers.narod.ru/, they really seem to do business the right way. I'm interested to see just how much Kenyon had to do with these results, so next year will be interesting.
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WTF is this all about ? A random post to induce people to click the link ?
That Home Game sounds like a stinker JM, the blinds alone are way to big for the buy-in, you have 25BBs for your buy in, once you add the ante it gets worse. How many people are going to be playing? and what strategy are you going to approach it with ?
With 10 people playing its going to cost you $4 an orbit ((10*0.25)+1+0.5). Super tight or not as loose as everyone else, I think I'd play it like I play 6max.
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It's not even something a predominantly American audience would be interested in. Man United (known as the scumbags round these parts) and Kenyon parted company ages ago too. Strange post.
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johnnyawe
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Yeah, that game seems like a recipe for disaster.
When I hosted my home game, I e-mailed a list of rules beforehand to everyone who would be playing. On the surface it was just an efficient way to explain the rules to everyone, but the secret goal of the e-mail was to make it clear that this wasn't a "dealers choice" night and that I would be running the show. Maybe it was a jerk thing to do, but I knew that if I didn't that my friends would hijack the game by proposing silly rules and games and then insisting on "voting" to determine what to do. And believe me, I would have gotten outvoted.
Anyways, none of this does anything for JMRogers because he is a guest in somebody else's game. In that case, you'll just have to politely go along with it.. Your only hope is to host a game of your own at some point and hope to "convert" most of the people over to the right way of playing.
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Humphrind
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Originally Posted by TheNatural
Yeah, that game seems like a recipe for disaster.
When I hosted my home game, I e-mailed a list of rules beforehand to everyone who would be playing. On the surface it was just an efficient way to explain the rules to everyone, but the secret goal of the e-mail was to make it clear that this wasn't a "dealers choice" night and that I would be running the show. Maybe it was a jerk thing to do, but I knew that if I didn't that my friends would hijack the game by proposing silly rules and games and then insisting on "voting" to determine what to do. And believe me, I would have gotten outvoted.
Anyways, none of this does anything for JMRogers because he is a guest in somebody else's game. In that case, you'll just have to politely go along with it.. Your only hope is to host a game of your own at some point and hope to "convert" most of the people over to the right way of playing.
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I think that JMs game may be on the tighter side than the looser side.
I can remember a time that I loved to have wild cards in play. It made me feel my hands were better. I chased a lot, lost a lot and won big when I won. Now I'm strongly against it. Chasing is bad, and wild cards promote chasing.
In JMs game, I didn't see any mention of wild cards. It also didn't look like that would be in the scope of the game.
$50 seems a little low for $1 / $2 limit, but that will make for tighter play (hence the ante) and an overall shorter game. (you don't want the game to last until the next morning)
I will agree that I would rather have a different structure for my game. But this isn't that terrible.
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I don't know what they have to say
It makes no difference anyway.
Whatever it is...
I'm against it.
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johnnyawe
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yeah, to call it a "disaster" was a bit harsh.
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koolmoe
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Originally Posted by Humphrind
I can remember a time that I loved to have wild cards in play. It made me feel my hands were better. I chased a lot, lost a lot and won big when I won. Now I'm strongly against it. Chasing is bad, and wild cards promote chasing.
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I hosted a couple of weeks ago and only three guys showed up. We played dealer's choice, and I couldn't get them to play more than a couple of orbits of HE before it ended up being a battle of 7CS (me) vs. follow the Q (the three of them).
What cracked me up was that they would play to the showdown and then not know how to read their hand (one guy read his straight flush as three 7's). Lucky for them we let the cards speak.
I personally wouldn't like the ante in jm's game. You'll have to change your strategy a little since the extra $2.50 in the pot preflop will improve the odds for playing drawing hands.
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