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keyser5
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04-03-2005, 04:56 AM
Post subject: Got my own Poker Superstars in my home game. $2000 pot!
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 26
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me and my buddies decided to do a little something different. We got sick of the same old buyin games so we started our own style of the Poker Superstars structure. Mostly its like the first season, with players accumulating points over 20 games. Then we have the final game with a base chip stack of $5000. During the next 17 games (we've already played 3) each player receives a point for the postition they finish in. Each point is $100 chips added to the base of $5000. Finish 6th in a game of 12, you get 6 points. Finish last, 1 point. Finish 1st, 12 points plus an extra $1000 in chips added to your final tally, finish 2nd 11 points plus an extra $500 added to your final tally. Each game has a $20 buy-in, with $10 being that nights pot and the other $10 going into the main pot for the final game. We average about 10 guys per game so in the end pot should be close to 2 grand. Winner gets 65%, second 25% and third 10%. Chip leaders will probably start around 30 grand, short stacks around 10 grand. Over these first 3 games i got a 1st, 3rd, and one horrible showing. But it seems like with everyone wanting to accumulate points and chips they are playing a more solid game. No more callers with their Ace high and catching an ace, or a gutshot on the river hitting. Its better for me since its easier to put people on hands. We got one guy who refuses to switch his "any two cards" style and so far hes got only 5 points. Steals alot of pots, but cant lay down a hand when its painfully obvious he's beat. Should be fun. Same old home game just gets boring. Let u guys know how things turn out.
sorry to the mods for putting this in the wrong forum. can u guys move it to the home game forum? thanks.
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Humphrind
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Kansas City
Posts: 1,887
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I don't know what they have to say
It makes no difference anyway.
Whatever it is...
I'm against it.
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SteveO
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Full House
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 755
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Sounds fun. I am pushing for a tourny of champions from last years monthly game. Bigger buy in, invitation only. I don't run the show though.
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Send lawyers, guns and money - the sh*t has hit the fan!
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Hold'me
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 1
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Interesting. I might ask my friends if they'd like to do something like this, seems like they are getting bored of NL cash games every weekend. Well, at least the ones that are consistent losers. 
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Staple Gun
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Full House
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Gamblers Anonymous
Posts: 812
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I see a major problem with your game. You said you are averaging 10 guys per week which makes me think that some arn't there every week. This means that someone who plays only 5 of your 20 games is buying in for $50 while someone who plays all 20 is paying $200 to get in.
Lets say that someone comes to 5 games and averages in the middle of the pack. They would get about 25 points and start off with $7,500 in chips, while only paying $50. Someone who also averages in the middle of the pack but plays all 20 games will get about 100 points and will get $15,000 to start. But he will have paid $200 to get in. This means that the people who play less are getting a remarkebly better deal than those that come to all of the games.
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PocketAces
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 8
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yeh i see what your talking about but if you changed it around a bit it could be a realy nice set up i knwo me and my freinds play everyweek if not twice a week so they mgiht liek that more ill see what they say
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Buckeye
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Colorado
Posts: 53
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Originally Posted by Staple Gun
I see a major problem with your game. You said you are averaging 10 guys per week which makes me think that some arn't there every week. This means that someone who plays only 5 of your 20 games is buying in for $50 while someone who plays all 20 is paying $200 to get in.
Lets say that someone comes to 5 games and averages in the middle of the pack. They would get about 25 points and start off with $7,500 in chips, while only paying $50. Someone who also averages in the middle of the pack but plays all 20 games will get about 100 points and will get $15,000 to start. But he will have paid $200 to get in. This means that the people who play less are getting a remarkebly better deal than those that come to all of the games.
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Hi all, does anyone have a resolution to this problem? This same concept was just brought up by one of my decent players yesterday. Lo and behold, FTR is already on it. I thought about just charging the people who want to be in the final tourney back dues and give them 1 point / $10 they owe OR just have the top 8 point holders play - theoretically would most likely be the regulars who can still pay the difference to get 1 point added, or their running average/2 added - what do you think?.
Thanks,
Buckeye
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Theeggman
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Flush
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SoCal
Posts: 363
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Seems to me that the way to make it more fair would be to reward the more frequent players with more chips instead of penalizing the less-frequent. Add a flat amount of chips to the final game chips equation for #of games played and give these extra chips for a playes frequency. Seems simple enough, just have to figure out the amounts.
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I'll be a rootin' tootin' shootin' damn fool, protectin' my chips.
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Buckeye
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Colorado
Posts: 53
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Originally Posted by Theeggman
Seems to me that the way to make it more fair would be to reward the more frequent players with more chips instead of penalizing the less-frequent. Add a flat amount of chips to the final game chips equation for #of games played and give these extra chips for a playes frequency. Seems simple enough, just have to figure out the amounts.
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Hmmm, Not bad at all.
Lets put it in my perspective.
My game will be on a much smaller scale. We are looking at 12 games every 2-3 weeks. Having just a $5/person/week purse. (we have lots of new people every week, with a core of 6-7 regulars, 12-14 total).
Starting with 5000 chips, what do you think a fair chip advantage would be for someone who paid the whole $60 to get in as opposed to the 8th person who only paid $20 to get in? Off hand - seems like an extra 1k chips per game is ok, but is that worth $5 (better yet - is 8K extra over last place worth $40)? Of course with all the other bonus chips, 1st place should lead by ~12,000 chips - is that worth the extra $40? This would also open the door for those who did want to pay back fees to get the extra $1K chips/game bonus.
Buckeye
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SteveA
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Posts: 27
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I do something similar with my league
Our season consists of 12 tourneys, with one freeroll at the end for the top 6 players.
Players accumulate points for each tourney, and are ranked based on their best 10 out of 12 tournament results - this allows players to miss up to 2 games and not be penalized too severely.
For the freeroll at the end, there will be a total of 150 chips in play for each player (150x6=$900). Each player starting chips is proportionate to their points. For example, if the total points from all players = 1000, and I was in first place with 500 points, I would start with $450 chips (500/1000x900).
We haven't started our season yet as we decided to do a test season first. This is unfortunate because guess who's kicking butt! http://www.homepokerclub.net/clubstandings.php?clubid=1
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SteveA
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pokerjfb
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 4
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This solution is probally way to late for you, but maybe a suggestion for next season. How about trying to give last place more than just 1 point. Maybe 3 points and go up accordingly.
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