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Fnord
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02-16-2009, 09:06 AM
Post subject: Giving away my money with the nut flush draw
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Opponent has ~$1600, I cover.
Same LAgg from this hand:
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...ck-t81786.html
Lagg Opens for $55 (almost any 2 cards)
Tightish player calls.
I call with :Ah: :Jh: from the BB
3 to the flop for ~$160
  
I check, Lagg bets $120, BN folds, I check-raise to $400, LAgg calls
~$960 in the pot
I bet $600, LAgg quickly calls "careful there, this is real money" (he's weak)
over 2k in the pot
I move in for an effective ~$500
How'd I do?
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naturalassassin
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I think the check raise and bet the turn is a good play. The amount to bet on the turn should have been all in I think. Though you could have saved some money.
Sometimes I'll save the bluff on the river when I play a loose opponent. A loose aggressive player may fold but getting 5-1 on the river probably priced him in to a busted flush draw or a bluff or a weaker pair. there lots of hands to put him on that would warrant a call on the river and you probably would have been paid off.
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Don't knock on deaths door... ring the bell and run! Death hates that LOL.
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Mr Bigcity
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push after the turn.. you played it how many pros play it.. a similar hand happend in the europe wsop with Marco Traniello bluffing almost his entire stack off with a river bet when his flush missed against Annette Obrestad.
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drmcboy
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DrButtInski
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i guess this is kinda scary and maybe you're trying to level him but
c/c, bet, bet
c/r more, shove
c/r less, bet, shove
all seem better. you could also attempt a super awesome double c/r which also leaves us a cheaper river bluff if he checks behind.
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Fnord
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by drmcboy
i guess this is kinda scary and maybe you're trying to level him but.
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Yeah, I didn't quite account for all of the money when I sized my flop raise. When I counted the money on the turn I figured I'd make it look like I was grilling him up.
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Silly String
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The flop is drawy enough that CRing more & shoving turn is perfectly acceptable. I prefer b/3bet if you think the LAG will raise as that is certainly the more likely flop line for a set on this drawy of a board.
I think you are getting called down light by the river since he is much more likely to have a 7 and you are repping a thin range that continues to value bet after the turn card. You think he can put many, if any, 7s in your range?
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Playing live . . . thanks alot Bin Laden.
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Fnord
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Silly String
I prefer b/3bet if you think the LAG will raise
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Between my image and the overall passive play in this game (after the first bet goes in), I hate to bet here hoping to get raised.
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Originally Posted by Silly String
You think he can put many, if any, 7s in your range?
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I called from the BB. That said, I don't think his thought process works like that.
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